Yea I never saw Jason play but Matt could certainly hit them pretty good lolYou talking about matt
Yea I never saw Jason play but Matt could certainly hit them pretty good lolYou talking about matt
He's also a very good 3c player, DCC banks champ and plays a mean game of one-pocket. Just all'round cue master.Matlock really was king of the bar box with an oversized cue ball. The aim point was different. The English reacted differently. The 90 degree rule for predicting CB path after contact wasn’t 90 degrees.
It was a big shift for him to go to the big tables. But when he did it still took a top tier pro to beat him on the 9’ tables. If the Camel tour would have lasted a little longer I think he might have won some events.
Matlock really was king of the bar box with an oversized cue ball. The aim point was different. The English reacted differently. The 90 degree rule for predicting CB path after contact wasn’t 90 degrees.
It was a big shift for him to go to the big tables. But when he did it still took a top tier pro to beat him on the 9’ tables. If the Camel tour would have lasted a little longer I think he might have won some events.
Yep. His stakehorse Bill Duggan(RIP) had a standing offer: come to Enid/Ponca City and you could win 10thousand. This was in the 70's when 10g's was a ton in pool. IIRC only David Howard beat this offer. Dave's game on the bb(especially with the big cueball) was(and at times still is) a thing to behold. He's still putting together 10+ game pkg's at 70yrs old. Feel free to go to Shooter's in Olathe if you feel like trying it on, Dave works there.
I've got a lot of amateur experience at this, and I used to say that 8-ball was easier on a 9' table. What I really I meant was that when I was playing every day, 8-ball on a 9' table was much less frustrating. And I think that if you see a player on a bar table playing multi-rail shape in 8-ball (and sometimes in 9-ball), they definitely have spent a considerable time on a 9' table.8 ball is easier on a 9footer than a 7 foot table. The shots aren't that much longer on average and you have tons of space to play shape. Only thing a barbox player needs to work on is proficiency with the crutch since almost never gets used on a 7 footer . Also two and three rail shape is much more common on 9 footer....crutch and multiple rail shape are what barbox guys need to work on for a great 9 foot game
Less balls locked up and less balls stuck to rails usually On big table
Idk why people think a guy that's accurate on a 7 isn't going to make shots on a nine.
If everyone in your area plays bar box you play that. If everyone plays 9 footers u play that. I've never seen a good player and said he can't play on a 9. Play on one for a week and your pretty well adjusted to it
I went there and played Darrin once in a tournament. Great player.I lived in Springfield, Missouri and started learning to play pool there. Danny Harriman and Darrin Everett were the top guns and awesome players. I knew practically nothing, but was in awe of both of them. They were having a bar box tournament in Springfield and they started having an player auction and it went very high in bids and neither Danny or Darrin were picked in the blind bid.....I thought these idiots bidding didnt have a clue.
Dave Matlock was picked first. Won the tournament, never losing a match. I determined the only idiot there was me. Lesson learned.
Just think about this. Springfield pool tournaments were televised on local TV. Pretty cool huh? "Snooker John" won one once, but that was another story.
Ken
And don't leave yourself for a side shot position near the end of a rack!I've got a lot of amateur experience at this, and I used to say that 8-ball was easier on a 9' table. What I really I meant was that when I was playing every day, 8-ball on a 9' table was much less frustrating. And I think that if you see a player on a bar table playing multi-rail shape in 8-ball (and sometimes in 9-ball), they definitely have spent a considerable time on a 9' table.
8-ball specifically, when I only had a bar table at the house, I couldn't just go into a league night and expect to play my best on a 9' table. But if I had time to practice, then everything was fine. However, when I only had a 9' table (a perfect Diamond table, for example), I couldn't just go into a league night and expect to play my best on a bar table either. I'd get too frustrated such that my mental state would put me into a tail spin. So, given my choice when I was playing all the time, I'd choose having the bar table full-time if I was going to play on both 7' and 9' tournaments for 8-ball. That seems counter intuitive for most posters. I don't see how anyone plays good bar table 8-ball if they play solely on a nice 9' table at home. I always struggled going down sizes.
For 9-ball, with less congestion and less precision position needed on a bar table, it's much easier on a bar table to play 9-ball.
IMNSHO .
I've got a lot of amateur experience at this, and I used to say that 8-ball was easier on a 9' table. What I really I meant was that when I was playing every day, 8-ball on a 9' table was much less frustrating. And I think that if you see a player on a bar table playing multi-rail shape in 8-ball (and sometimes in 9-ball), they definitely have spent a considerable time on a 9' table.
8-ball specifically, when I only had a bar table at the house, I couldn't just go into a league night and expect to play my best on a 9' table. But if I had time to practice, then everything was fine. However, when I only had a 9' table (a perfect Diamond table, for example), I couldn't just go into a league night and expect to play my best on a bar table either. I'd get too frustrated such that my mental state would put me into a tail spin. So, given my choice when I was playing all the time, I'd choose having the bar table full-time if I was going to play on both 7' and 9' tournaments for 8-ball. That seems counter intuitive for most posters. I don't see how anyone plays good bar table 8-ball if they play solely on a nice 9' table at home. I always struggled going down sizes.
For 9-ball, with less congestion and less precision position needed on a bar table, it's much easier on a bar table to play 9-ball.
IMNSHO .
I dont think anyone was barred from the $10K bet with Dave. If Keith wanted action, he had all he wanted from Matlock.Keith liked the big rock also. To put myself in elevated company, I did too! While it played differently, it always seemed like the big cue ball played more "honest" than the weighted or magnetic cue balls. You could count on how it would play if you walked into a strange place.
I saw a couple of the cue balls break that had metal in them. I thought it would be a ball or a slug about the same length and diameter but what I saw was a section of pipe, almost like a pipe collar. It was fairly thin walled and came almost to the surface of the cue ball. Easy to see if that weight was off just a bit you were going to have a cue ball that rolled off.
Hu
When can we play Ken?I lived in Springfield, Missouri and started learning to play pool there. Danny Harriman and Darrin Everett were the top guns and awesome players. I knew practically nothing, but was in awe of both of them. They were having a bar box tournament in Springfield and they started having an player auction and it went very high in bids and neither Danny or Darrin were picked in the blind bid.....I thought these idiots bidding didnt have a clue.
Dave Matlock was picked first. Won the tournament, never losing a match. I determined the only idiot there was me. Lesson learned.
Just think about this. Springfield pool tournaments were televised on local TV. Pretty cool huh? "Snooker John" won one once, but that was another story.
Ken
One of the greatest 10ft beatdowns i ever watched was when Landon Shuffett went full-on scorched earth on Earl at the SouthernClassic in Tunica.On a different note, I wonder who the best 10 foot table player is? Probably Shaw considering his past accomplishments in Big Foot tournaments
I play at Brickyard on weekends.When can we play Ken?
YeahYou talking about matt
I play at Brickyard on weekends.
Yea and that baby would be the beastYeah
Did a Jason Kirkwood/Matt Clatterbuck crossover