Yea I never saw Jason play but Matt could certainly hit them pretty good lol
Bar table specialists
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He's also a very good 3c player, DCC banks champ and plays a mean game of one-pocket. Just all'round cue master.
Keith liked the big rock also. To put myself in elevated company, I did too! While it played differently, it always seemed like the big cue ball played more "honest" than the weighted or magnetic cue balls. You could count on how it would play if you walked into a strange place.
I saw a couple of the cue balls break that had metal in them. I thought it would be a ball or a slug about the same length and diameter but what I saw was a section of pipe, almost like a pipe collar. It was fairly thin walled and came almost to the surface of the cue ball. Easy to see if that weight was off just a bit you were going to have a cue ball that rolled off.
Hu
Seems they all did. I liked the bigball until Simonis came along and then everything played fast.
I lived in Springfield, Missouri and started learning to play pool there. Danny Harriman and Darrin Everett were the top guns and awesome players. I knew practically nothing, but was in awe of both of them. They were having a bar box tournament in Springfield and they started having an player auction and it went very high in bids and neither Danny or Darrin were picked in the blind bid.....I thought these idiots bidding didnt have a clue.
Dave Matlock was picked first. Won the tournament, never losing a match. I determined the only idiot there was me. Lesson learned.
Just think about this. Springfield pool tournaments were televised on local TV. Pretty cool huh? "Snooker John" won one once, but that was another story.
Ken
I've got a lot of amateur experience at this, and I used to say that 8-ball was easier on a 9' table. What I really I meant was that when I was playing every day, 8-ball on a 9' table was much less frustrating. And I think that if you see a player on a bar table playing multi-rail shape in 8-ball (and sometimes in 9-ball), they definitely have spent a considerable time on a 9' table.
8-ball specifically, when I only had a bar table at the house, I couldn't just go into a league night and expect to play my best on a 9' table. But if I had time to practice, then everything was fine. However, when I only had a 9' table (a perfect Diamond table, for example), I couldn't just go into a league night and expect to play my best on a bar table either. I'd get too frustrated such that my mental state would put me into a tail spin. So, given my choice when I was playing all the time, I'd choose having the bar table full-time if I was going to play on both 7' and 9' tournaments for 8-ball. That seems counter intuitive for most posters. I don't see how anyone plays good bar table 8-ball if they play solely on a nice 9' table at home. I always struggled going down sizes.
For 9-ball, with less congestion and less precision position needed on a bar table, it's much easier on a bar table to play 9-ball.
IMNSHO .
9 ball on the bar table is easy. all shots are short and you dont need to move the cueball much to get position and even if off the shot is easy.
8 ball can be harder if the balls dont open easily on the table. but it favors the better player anyway as he can make use of tying up balls better. so he wins either way. as the better player usually does.
the smarter player does best at 8 ball on a table that doesnt open easily.
if you are smarter than your opponent then one pocket is best to play him. next is 8 ball.
8 ball can be harder if the balls dont open easily on the table. but it favors the better player anyway as he can make use of tying up balls better. so he wins either way. as the better player usually does.
the smarter player does best at 8 ball on a table that doesnt open easily.
if you are smarter than your opponent then one pocket is best to play him. next is 8 ball.
I went there and played Darrin once in a tournament. Great player.
And don't leave yourself for a side shot position near the end of a rack!
I heard that observation from you on a stream and stopped doing that unless I absolutely have to and then I MAKE SURE to get the correct angle.
Once you said that I realized how many times it felt like I was running into a dead end because the side table leaves just slightly the wrong angle can really force you to do some maneuvering to try and get back in line. Next thing you know you are running around the table hoping for a bump leave on what should have been a routine out.
Every time I read another thread with somebody wanting to know what is the biggest table they can squeeze into their room at home I think they would be a lot better off with a Diamond or tuned used seven footer and be able to enjoy the table instead of squeezing around it. Not what they want to hear so I rarely make the comment.
You can enjoy a seven footer at home and find a nine footer a couple times a month to stay in tune for nine foot table play. Of course the reverse is true if you have plenty of room for a nine foot table at home. A few times a month and an hour warm up before a tournament put you tourney ready on either table.
It seems like more and more seven foot is going to be the pool hall table. I see the few new halls come in and put all seven footers with one nine footer as their big table instead of all nines except one ten. I understand the dollars end of things but it doesn't make me happy!
Hu
I dont think anyone was barred from the $10K bet with Dave. If Keith wanted action, he had all he wanted from Matlock.
When can we play Ken?
soyale
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stating the obvious but for us low level players the minimized distance on a bar box definitely makes things easier. However, i think pocket size makes things even easier than the smaller table. my personal bests in all disciplines have been on a 9’ gandy with home depot buckets, but i feel better on a bar box diamond because of the shorter distance on everything.
as far as specialists i think SVB has said bar table 8 ball is his all time favorite game but i could be misquoting him
as far as specialists i think SVB has said bar table 8 ball is his all time favorite game but i could be misquoting him
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Twocylndr
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Smoothrobinva
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Woodshaft
Do what works for YOU!
I'm with the "8-ball is easier to run out on 9-footers" crowd, for advanced players.
Also I am with the "9-ball is easier on a 7-footer" crowd, for all skill levels.
But as far as whether there are bar box specialists, all the players I've met who play over say, fargorate 600, even if they primarily play on the 7's, they can jump onto the 9's and re-adapt quickly.
That said, there are a ton of sub-fargorate 600-ish players that can't play nearly as well on 9's as 7's.
So, in a nut shell, "Open" players (fargo 600+) can play equally well on both size tables (usually) in my experience.
Also I am with the "9-ball is easier on a 7-footer" crowd, for all skill levels.
But as far as whether there are bar box specialists, all the players I've met who play over say, fargorate 600, even if they primarily play on the 7's, they can jump onto the 9's and re-adapt quickly.
That said, there are a ton of sub-fargorate 600-ish players that can't play nearly as well on 9's as 7's.
So, in a nut shell, "Open" players (fargo 600+) can play equally well on both size tables (usually) in my experience.