Lagging ?

u12armresl

u12armresl

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Was just rewatching Cool Kim and Stalev, and the opening lag did not disappoint.
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My question to you is, how do you tell on something like this who is closer.
Doesn't it seem really hard to believe that one of the 2 balls isn't just a little bit closer?

Besides relagging, is there some method where you could definitively tell if one ball was closer without holding up the tournament for a long time?
 
u12armresl said:
Was just rewatching Cool Kim and Stalev, and the opening lag did not disappoint.
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My question to you is, how do you tell on something like this who is closer.
Doesn't it seem really hard to believe that one of the 2 balls isn't just a little bit closer?

Besides relagging, is there some method where you could definitively tell if one ball was closer without holding up the tournament for a long time?
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Put a ball between each of them and the rail….gets easier to call.
 
It is always easier to see which is closer if you are there rather than watching a video.
If it is too close to call you can always lag again.
In the picture the 6 ball is clearly closer to the rail.
 
buckshotshoey said:
I think what you are seeing is camera parallax. If the camera was directly in line with the balls, it would look different.
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Yes could be, but just by going with the picture which is all we have the 6 ball wins. But like I said it is always easier to tell the difference in real life (as in being there) rather than looking at videos and pictures.
 
hurricane145 said:
It is always easier to see which is closer if you are there rather than watching a video.
If it is too close to call you can always lag again.
In the picture the 6 ball is clearly closer to the rail.
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If Kim and Stalev had to both walk around the table several times I wouldn't say that either is "clearly" closer.
 
Just put a ball between each one and the rail touching the rail. When the increment is smaller it will be obvious which is closer to the other ball. Neither one of these lags is to write home about.
 
Deruki said:
Just put a ball between each one and the rail touching the rail. When the increment is smaller it will be obvious which is closer to the other ball. Neither one of these lags is to write home about.
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In this case, it looks like you might even squeeze 2 balls between the rail and the balls, but one would likely be enough for a neutral party or the two players to agree on which one is closer.
 
pt109 said:
Put a ball between each of them and the rail….gets easier to call.
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This always seems to be the answer. When in doubt, start filling in the gap. Further from the rail I look at whatever might be handy that will bridge most of the gap.

Hu
 
It's easier to tell from way past the foot area. The nose of the head rail forms a vertical reference. The closer ball will be easier to spot although in this case even the side angle shows the 6 ball being closer.
 
Wait a second, Both Stalev and Kim looked at them for a good minute from different angles, and then Scott Smith looked at it from different angles, and called it a tie and re-lag. Yet we are all certain from a picture the 6 wins? That does not pass the sniff test:)
 
A pair of calipers would quickly remove any question and could be measured accurately in a couple of seconds

(Edit) Looking at the picture I would say the 6 is closer
 
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