how are ya'll doing in league ?

Given that league is handicapped and should (theoretically) make most matches a coin flip, how is it possible for a player to A) frequently make it to Vegas for singles and B) almost always go deep once there? Person in question has gone deep at both APA and USAPL events multiple times. I was always under the impression that, assuming you aren't a 700+ Fargo beating up on 575 Fargo SL 7/9s, making it to Vegas period was somewhat luck-based and going deep was particularly luck-based. But this person does it annually it seems.
 
BlueRaider said:
Given that league is handicapped and should (theoretically) make most matches a coin flip, how is it possible for a player to A) frequently make it to Vegas for singles and B) almost always go deep once there? Person in question has gone deep at both APA and USAPL events multiple times. I was always under the impression that, assuming you aren't a 700+ Fargo beating up on 575 Fargo SL 7/9s, making it to Vegas period was somewhat luck-based and going deep was particularly luck-based. But this person does it annually it seems.
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hes good lol
 
BlueRaider said:
Given that league is handicapped and should (theoretically) make most matches a coin flip, how is it possible for a player to A) frequently make it to Vegas for singles and B) almost always go deep once there? Person in question has gone deep at both APA and USAPL events multiple times. I was always under the impression that, assuming you aren't a 700+ Fargo beating up on 575 Fargo SL 7/9s, making it to Vegas period was somewhat luck-based and going deep was particularly luck-based. But this person does it annually it seems.
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Some people perform better under pressure than others. Your "coin flip" players might very well be close in skill level, and maybe even in matches, during regular sessions, but playoffs are a different atmosphere entirely
 
BlueRaider said:
Given that league is handicapped and should (theoretically) make most matches a coin flip, how is it possible for a player to A) frequently make it to Vegas for singles and B) almost always go deep once there? Person in question has gone deep at both APA and USAPL events multiple times. I was always under the impression that, assuming you aren't a 700+ Fargo beating up on 575 Fargo SL 7/9s, making it to Vegas period was somewhat luck-based and going deep was particularly luck-based. But this person does it annually it seems.
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I'm assuming this person is a 7/9 themselves? Anything lower would be suss.
I know one guy who has won a big amateur event as a '6'. His fargo is officially 570. His actual top speed beats the ghost whenever he wants.

He's been described by another player as 'the greatest obfuscator of skill there ever was'. Tho to me, it just looks like what it is.... a guy that can do pretty much whatever he wants on a pool table toying with opponents like a cat toys with a mouse before finishing it off.

Dbags gonna Dbag.
 
justadub said:
Some people perform better under pressure than others. Your "coin flip" players might very well be close in skill level, and maybe even in matches, during regular sessions, but playoffs are a different atmosphere entirely
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This is true and certainly may be the case.
I'm assuming this person is a 7/9 themselves? Anything lower would be suss.
I know one guy who has won a big amateur event as a '6'. His fargo is officially 570. His actual top speed beats the ghost whenever he wants.

He's been described by another player as 'the greatest obfuscator of skill there ever was'. Tho to me, it just looks like what it is.... a guy that can do pretty much whatever he wants on a pool table toying with opponents like a cat toys with a mouse before finishing it off.

Dbags gonna Dbag.
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I don't believe he is. He's low 500ish Fargo Rate.
 
BlueRaider said:
I don't believe he is. He's low 500ish Fargo Rate.
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This should def raise some eyebrows.
For a guy like that, an SL6 I'm assuming based on Fargo, to consistently go to Nationals and go deep once there, he's either the luckiest dude you ever met, an all-time clutch performer, or someone setting his fargo while high or drunk slapping around who gets serious when it counts and plays sober...several levels above his 'norm'. Maybe a combination of the 3.
 
BlueRaider said:
That makes perfect sense in open tournament formats, but these are all handicapped events. They're designed specifically for certain players (outside of super, super, super SL 7/9s who still play APA for some reason) to not consistently dominate.
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but they do still play in apa
plenty of 700 fargos play
 
Now that both of the pool leagues seasons have come to a end there's been some 8 ball tournaments to end each league .
I missed out on one because of work with another local 8 ball tournament played on bar boxes , out of my own curiosity I during out my old sneaky Pete cue for a few practice racks and darned if I soon was shooting better with it than my stand by pool cue !
 
The Black Tier of the APA 9-Ball Singles tournament currently has a 746 Fargo in the semi-finals, lol. Lowish robustness (350) but that would still put him in the top 40 or so American players.
 
BlueRaider said:
The Black Tier of the APA 9-Ball Singles tournament currently has a 746 Fargo in the semi-finals, lol. Lowish robustness (350) but that would still put him in the top 40 or so American players.
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I watched a few of his matches. Probably not a 750 player but definitely a low range 700.
 
BlueRaider said:
The Black Tier of the APA 9-Ball Singles tournament currently has a 746 Fargo in the semi-finals, lol. Lowish robustness (350) but that would still put him in the top 40 or so American players.
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theres always 700s in the highest tier apa same as the masters division in apa bca vnea, etc
 
BlueRaider said:
The Black Tier of the APA 9-Ball Singles tournament currently has a 746 Fargo in the semi-finals, lol. Lowish robustness (350) but that would still put him in the top 40 or so American players.
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Yeah he beat the guy from my area in semifinals. I told LO to appeal. Anything over 730 is almost for sure “pro level”.

I made it to Vegas. Plane trip gave me vertigo. First day I thought it was anxiety not vertigo. I still played great. won first 2 8 ball matches in the 7 bracket 5-0 and 5-1. Got 4 B&R patches and 4 9 on break patches in minis. Won a 9 ball mini. I was playing so good that I was winning against a 7 in nine ball 47 to nothing with a 2 pack and 9 on the break in one of those minis.

Then the dizzy didn’t wear off. It started affecting my aim. Pretty much lost every other match I played for 3 days without getting any more patches and got to visit the ER when I returned home. Turns out inner ear inflammation causing vertigo. Guess Ill have to get them next time…..
 
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My spring futility tour continues, after a week off from both 8 and 9 ball teams. I went down 3-0 and managed to get the next two, before selling out on an attempted safety. Not as bad as I've been playing, I suppose...looking for the silver lining. Hopefully I've identified some mechanical issues that might help turn things around.
 
justadub said:
Some people perform better under pressure than others. Your "coin flip" players might very well be close in skill level, and maybe even in matches, during regular sessions, but playoffs are a different atmosphere entirely
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I think that a player that can max out any league rating is steady enough under pressure to not perform that bad. You just don't get good enough and win enough to reach that level and fall apart in matches. That is for the lower ranks LOL The difference between say a good 6 and a 7 could be only that performance anxiety, but that can be the defining line.
 
After losing 75-51 (75-65 race) and getting demolished 95-33 (95-60) in my first two 14.1 matches, I finally got my $h1+ together and won 60-33 (60-60) last night.

I had fixed a stroke flaw that had crept into my game so I was much more accurate. I also played smarter on 14.1 break shots where I had a questionable chance of making the break ball, played safe instead. Prior two weeks I’d try the break shot, miss, then sit and advance the scoring wheel for my opponent, shot after shot after….. Excruciatingly frustrating watching opponents clean up my mistakes.
 
Here in Sydney Australia we just had the worst thing possible..
Our main venue with 8 tables just got bought out and new owner doesn't want tables.

We finished our BCAPL season by playing 4 weeks worth of matches in a couple of weekends.
Finals will now be in Newcastle, about 2 hours north of Sydney....

No idea about next season, we need to get a new venue setup....

Tragic.
 
telinoz said:
Here in Sydney Australia we just had the worst thing possible..
Our main venue with 8 tables just got bought out and new owner doesn't want tables.

We finished our BCAPL season by playing 4 weeks worth of matches in a couple of weekends.
Finals will now be in Newcastle, about 2 hours north of Sydney....

No idea about next season, we need to get a new venue setup....

Tragic.
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Hmmm. Buy one of the tables for cheap?
 
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