Is the Aiming Forum a Relic?

Dan White

Dan White

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It's been more than two weeks since the last post here... not even a CTE testimonial. I'm a little verklempt. I need a minute. :cry:
 
Do you miss it? I don't think there's enough to the topic to support an active forum (which was only created to quarantine CTE).

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Patrick Johnson said:
Do you miss it? I don't think there's enough to the topic to support an active forum (which was only created to quarantine CTE).

pj
chgo
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It took a few years to sort it out, but it ended up a master stroke by Mike. Ban CTE from the main forum and move it to the aiming forum. Then ban those who can't stop with the CTE hysteria from posting in the aiming forum. The new forum software allowed that to happen. I think the aiming forum is like a sacrificial anode that protects the main forum from decay. Plus, every once in awhile JB provides a chuckle. I say let the aiming forum stay.
 
Dan White said:
It took a few years to sort it out, but it ended up a master stroke by Mike. Ban CTE from the main forum and move it to the aiming forum. Then ban those who can't stop with the CTE hysteria from posting in the aiming forum. The new forum software allowed that to happen. I think the aiming forum is like a sacrificial anode that protects the main forum from decay. Plus, every once in awhile JB provides a chuckle. I say let the aiming forum stay.
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I'm not sure I like being part of a sacrificial anode. It doesn't seem to hurt, though.

I try to introduce aiming ideas from time to time. Maybe there's not much more to say, though.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Besides the marine application, water heaters use an anode to prevent corrosion. Someone told me that you can greatly extend the life of a water heater by replacing the anode. (Seems like they could just make it bigger to start with.)
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When I was renovating a store 19 years ago the plumber doing a lot of work suggested I consider replacing the water heater as it had already been there awhile and looked like it might go. That was 19 years ago. :unsure: Sadly, the water heater outlasted the plumber, RIP.
 
bbb said:
i think its more important to have a stroke delivery that is accurate and repeatable
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I think it was a Mark Wilson clinic I was watching, he said the misses are caused by failing to deliver the cue ball accurately, not by failing to aim accurately. That said, I do seem to have trouble when hitting less than half ball. I'm aiming the center of the cue ball, and it's easier if that goes through the object ball than near the object ball. Then again, some days I'm draining them so I must have something I just can't tap into consistently.
 
tomatoshooter said:
I think it was a Mark Wilson clinic I was watching, he said the misses are caused by failing to deliver the cue ball accurately, not by failing to aim accurately. That said, I do seem to have trouble when hitting less than half ball. I'm aiming the center of the cue ball, and it's easier if that goes through the object ball than near the object ball. Then again, some days I'm draining them so I must have something I just can't tap into consistently.
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I don't like calling it bullshit but it is. I have put a lot of effort to research and practice of aiming and still i know most of my misses is caused by aiming error.
I know how to aim all shots any spin but still fail to do so.
Lining up shot incorrectly on aiming line is aiming error.
 
Everyone’s brain processes information differently. There will never be one aiming convention that will work for all.

So the hysterical idiots that claim CTE is the greatest are just that idiots. I think there is way too many moving parts to CTE.

HAMB is way better, experience sorts it all out.
 
Poolmanis said:
I don't like calling it bullshit but it is. I have put a lot of effort to research and practice of aiming and still i know most of my misses is caused by aiming error.
I know how to aim all shots any spin but still fail to do so.
Lining up shot incorrectly on aiming line is aiming error.
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with all due respect as you play way better than i do
i find it hard to believe that you dont know where to hit the object ball to make it in the pocket
i assume you watch the cue ball hit the object ball
at the moment of contact you know if you hit it little thick or thin
that meant you did not hit your target yet you knew the target
so your misses could be from
1)you were not aligned up correctly to your target and hit the target you were aligned to....thats an alignment error not an aiming error
you did not hit your target yet you knew the target
2) on this particular stroke you were barely off straight and so sent the cue ball on an unintended line
no one is a robot and does things perfectly every time
for the players at lower levels i still think their misses are more from not hitting the target from stroke errors
not because the dont know where they have to hit the object ball to pocket it
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i dont think tomatoshooters post was bullshit and he was quoting mark wilson who deserves some respect rather than calling him bullshit
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Maybe my words were little harsh but i see everyone praise that Wilsons clinic and not question anything he says. I see players practicing their strokes year after year and it is nearly perfect.. Still they are not improving. If we would see shot right like Wilson claims they should be world champions.
I believe stroke errors come to our play when we are uncertain of cut. My stroke with left hand is far worse than right. I still can make near century breaks on snooker with it. Also i play virtual pool games where everyone have always perfect stroke. People miss same shots same way like real world.
 
Poolmanis said:
Maybe my words were little harsh but i see everyone praise that Wilsons clinic and not question anything he says. I see players practicing their strokes year after year and it is nearly perfect.. Still they are not improving. If we would see shot right like Wilson claims they should be world champions.
I believe stroke errors come to our play when we are uncertain of cut. My stroke with left hand is far worse than right. I still can make near century breaks on snooker with it. Also i play virtual pool games where everyone have always perfect stroke. People miss same shots same way like real world.
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Thanks for your reply
I agree some people see certain shots “off” and have to learn to recognize that and correct it
 
tomatoshooter said:
I think it was a Mark Wilson clinic I was watching, he said the misses are caused by failing to deliver the cue ball accurately, not by failing to aim accurately. That said, I do seem to have trouble when hitting less than half ball. I'm aiming the center of the cue ball, and it's easier if that goes through the object ball than near the object ball. Then again, some days I'm draining them so I must have something I just can't tap into consistently.
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Failing to deliver the cb accurately can be caused by two factors: inaccurate aiming or a flawed stroke.
 
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Poolmanis said:
I don't like calling it bullshit but it is. I have put a lot of effort to research and practice of aiming and still i know most of my misses is caused by aiming error.
I know how to aim all shots any spin but still fail to do so.
Lining up shot incorrectly on aiming line is aiming error.
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I agree. I respect Mark Wilson's opinion, but aiming errors are quite common, and I don't believe the bulk of an average player's missed shots is stroke-related.

Fact is, plenty of spin shots require quesswork/estimation when it comes to aiming. Plenty of cut shots require quesswork/estimation, especially at a distance.
Sure, we can blame a miss on faulty cue delivery, but when the aiming of a shot is not 100% known, missing the shot is a likely outcome.

The way I see it is this... shots are missed due to poor aiming skills or an inconsistent cue delivery, or a combination of both. However, once a player develops a consistent stroke and consistent body mechanics, not placing all of this on the correct aim line (aiming) can definitely cause missed shots.

I'm not saying a quality stroke can't go wonky on occasion and cause a miss, but I doubt that's the main cause for the majority of missed shots among experienced players.
 
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