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Tomorrow I'm driving 7 or so hrs from Atlanta to Virginia to play in the Battle of the Bull 9 ball event. The past few days I felt very weak in my game, and almost wanted to drop out of the tournament.
My tip has been flat and mushroomed for months and bothering me. I bought this shaft used, and the tip came like that. I used to do cue repair for 10 years, ending 10 years ago, but haven't put on a tip since, and my lathe is no longer set up. I reshaped the tip by hand with a single bevel Japanese knife and sandpaper. I haven't done that since I was about 17 years old. It turned out better than I could have hoped for. Very concentric. I went to the practice table and I felt like I couldn't miss. How things change from one day to the next. Probably a placebo with the tip re-shaping, but I'll take it! Hopefully it will carry through to the tournament. The first matches are Wed night, with a 128 man field.
My tip has been flat and mushroomed for months and bothering me. I bought this shaft used, and the tip came like that. I used to do cue repair for 10 years, ending 10 years ago, but haven't put on a tip since, and my lathe is no longer set up. I reshaped the tip by hand with a single bevel Japanese knife and sandpaper. I haven't done that since I was about 17 years old. It turned out better than I could have hoped for. Very concentric. I went to the practice table and I felt like I couldn't miss. How things change from one day to the next. Probably a placebo with the tip re-shaping, but I'll take it! Hopefully it will carry through to the tournament. The first matches are Wed night, with a 128 man field.
Git it now, GIT IT! That shot ain’t tough, it ain’t spit! This is why you practice, you are prepared. Do your best and be smooth.
Good luck!
The new tip can radically change how a stick plays. For a few years I played with a flat tip with a rounded edge. When I picked up a stick with a full round tip it required a significant adjustment. Places that catered to casual players didn't have all full radius tips back then. I suspect the more common tip was more forgiving for bangers. You had to get further out on the cue ball before it had a significant effect.
Good job on the tip and photographs! I did a few a couple years back when I had a home table and no lathe running myself. Didn't take that much longer than doing it on a lathe when set up and all was considered and the results were pleasing.
Hu
The new tip can radically change how a stick plays. For a few years I played with a flat tip with a rounded edge. When I picked up a stick with a full round tip it required a significant adjustment. Places that catered to casual players didn't have all full radius tips back then. I suspect the more common tip was more forgiving for bangers. You had to get further out on the cue ball before it had a significant effect.
Good job on the tip and photographs! I did a few a couple years back when I had a home table and no lathe running myself. Didn't take that much longer than doing it on a lathe when set up and all was considered and the results were pleasing.
Hu
Ramblings in no particular order:
I'm back from the tournament. I went 2 and out, losing both matches 5-8. Both matches I was ahead to 5 and then didn't win another game. My first opponent was a 674, 1125 robustness. He actually went deep, beating Billy Thorpe hill-hill, and getting to the round of 32. My second opponent was a 626, 550 robustness. My rating increased from 531/129 to 540/155.
Bracket: https://digitalpool.com/tournaments...2bF-WjQgxJ-38mdmlQVgWKrT-3vxaaScsteOc00PCbI7E
The first match I was comfortable and playing ok. The second match was weird. I was missing spin shots by a mile, I couldn't figure out what was going on. I felt very uncomfortable at the table. Maybe it was the new cloth, but the night before on my first match it didn't bother me. I haven't felt that uncomfortable in a long time, if ever.
The tournament was fun, but a tough road. I was reflecting if I was an actual pro, I probably wouldn't want this life. I drove 7 hrs, and my back was killing me by the time I arrived about 10pm. I was coming off a cold, so I slept the whole next day in the hotel, and arrived at the pool room at 7pm for the calcutta and players meeting. I really liked the layout of the room. It was clean, and had 7' Diamonds on one half, and 9' Diamonds on the other half. Between the two halves was an elevated platform the entire length of the room, forming a division. It had round tables and chairs its whole length. This made it very nice to watch matches on either side, and not be in anybody's way. The ceilings were very high drop ceiling panels and they were painted flat black. There was a separate pro shop in a glassed off room, and a bar.
I thought the matches would start in about 30 minutes, so I rented a 7' table. All the 9' tables had players practicing. I didn't want to jump on with them, I wanted my own table, even though it wasn't free. The 7' were bouncing much more than the 9'. The 9' had brand new cloth for this tournament, while the 7' was maybe a year old. Nonetheless, it was a good move for me because I wanted to be in stroke. The calcutta started and Big Truck was on the mic. I haven't been to a tournament with a big calcutta in at least 10 years, and it was a trip. It took forever though. Probably 3 hours. I practiced the whole time. I'd be fine if there were no calcuttas.
I was watching the other players. Some of the Americans were at the bar drinking. The Europeans and Filipinos were all at the tournament tables practicing. Chang was the only Taiwanese player there, and he was inseparable from Yapp from Singapore. They were both speaking Chinese to each other the the whole tournament, and practicing with each other at every chance. The Greeks were all sitting at a round table together, and laughing at Big Truck how he was being a good auctioneer. Shane and Tyler came in and checked the bracket for a minute, and knew they had byes as the seeded players. So they immediately left to eat and rest. I noticed all this and knew they were serious professionals. They didn't stick around for the calcutta, or to drink, or to socialize. Just based on this, I thought Shane/Tyler/Chang/Yapp would be the favorites. They seemed the most serious throughout the week.
I was reflecting on all this and just thinking of the road life, where even using the toilet is an uncomfortable proposition on the road. I don't have to worry about that because I stink
After the calcutta, they had the draw. There were 11 tables and my match was called the first round. Unfortunately, they paused the one pocket finals for the calcutta, and needed the TV table for the finals, which happened right after the Calcutta. That left only 10 tables, and my match was on 11. So I had to wait for the first open table of the first round to finish. My match ended up starting at midnight (and was the only match). I played the match, then afterwards stayed on for 2 hours hitting balls until the 1 pocket was over and the place closed. I got a good feel for the table and felt good. Incidentally, I was on a 30 some hour fast. It was not intentional, just the way it worked out. I didn't want to eat and have to go to the toilet in the middle of my match. And I also didn't want to eat and get tired during my match. So I just stayed fasted. I actually felt pretty good that way. I don't think I actually broke my fast until after my second match the next day, but I can't remember 100% right now.
I hadn't really watched any matches. Just a few min here, a few min there. On the last day I made an effort to watch one match to see what I could learn from the pattern play. I decided to watch Kazakis vs Roland Garcia. Next to them was Tyler vs I forget. I couldn't focus enough to watch the whole match. It was uncanny. I guess I need to train myself to do that. ha ha.
The main sponsor was Bull Carbon. I shot with their shafts a few min and liked them. They have a quick change joint system, it reminded me of the Smart Shaft by Bill Stroud about 25 years ago.
The 1 pocket was supposed to be full at 32 players. My buddy tried to sign up a month ago, and the TD told him it was full with a waiting list. There turned out to be 8 byes in the bracket. The 9 ball was similar. The sign up chart had about 120 players, but only 89 were physically in the building and paid. I felt a bit bad for the TD and sponsors that so many players were no-shows from both tournaments.
I only said hello to Oscar, who I met before at DCC, Bigtruck, and Kazakis. I hadn't met Kazakis before. I went up to him and introduced myself and he said "so you're the other Greek". We had a brief chat, and I let him know I'd been following him for years and wished him luck. I left after that, went to Wendy's, then went and crashed at the hotel, to leave the next morning.
All in all I had fun, and it was good motivation for practice leading up to the event. I'd do it again, but I wouldn't do it frequently
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Ramblings in no particular order:
I'm back from the tournament. I went 2 and out, losing both matches 5-8. Both matches I was ahead to 5 and then didn't win another game. My first opponent was a 674, 1125 robustness. He actually went deep, beating Billy Thorpe hill-hill, and getting to the round of 32. My second opponent was a 626, 550 robustness. My rating increased from 531/129 to 540/155.
Bracket: https://digitalpool.com/tournaments...2bF-WjQgxJ-38mdmlQVgWKrT-3vxaaScsteOc00PCbI7E
The first match I was comfortable and playing ok. The second match was weird. I was missing spin shots by a mile, I couldn't figure out what was going on. I felt very uncomfortable at the table. Maybe it was the new cloth, but the night before on my first match it didn't bother me. I haven't felt that uncomfortable in a long time, if ever.
The tournament was fun, but a tough road. I was reflecting if I was an actual pro, I probably wouldn't want this life. I drove 7 hrs, and my back was killing me by the time I arrived about 10pm. I was coming off a cold, so I slept the whole next day in the hotel, and arrived at the pool room at 7pm for the calcutta and players meeting. I really liked the layout of the room. It was clean, and had 7' Diamonds on one half, and 9' Diamonds on the other half. Between the two halves was an elevated platform the entire length of the room, forming a division. It had round tables and chairs its whole length. This made it very nice to watch matches on either side, and not be in anybody's way. The ceilings were very high drop ceiling panels and they were painted flat black. There was a separate pro shop in a glassed off room, and a bar.
I thought the matches would start in about 30 minutes, so I rented a 7' table. All the 9' tables had players practicing. I didn't want to jump on with them, I wanted my own table, even though it wasn't free. The 7' were bouncing much more than the 9'. The 9' had brand new cloth for this tournament, while the 7' was maybe a year old. Nonetheless, it was a good move for me because I wanted to be in stroke. The calcutta started and Big Truck was on the mic. I haven't been to a tournament with a big calcutta in at least 10 years, and it was a trip. It took forever though. Probably 3 hours. I practiced the whole time. I'd be fine if there were no calcuttas.
I was watching the other players. Some of the Americans were at the bar drinking. The Europeans and Filipinos were all at the tournament tables practicing. Chang was the only Taiwanese player there, and he was inseparable from Yapp from Singapore. They were both speaking Chinese to each other the the whole tournament, and practicing with each other at every chance. The Greeks were all sitting at a round table together, and laughing at Big Truck how he was being a good auctioneer. Shane and Tyler came in and checked the bracket for a minute, and knew they had byes as the seeded players. So they immediately left to eat and rest. I noticed all this and knew they were serious professionals. They didn't stick around for the calcutta, or to drink, or to socialize. Just based on this, I thought Shane/Tyler/Chang/Yapp would be the favorites. They seemed the most serious throughout the week.
I was reflecting on all this and just thinking of the road life, where even using the toilet is an uncomfortable proposition on the road. I don't have to worry about that because I stink
After the calcutta, they had the draw. There were 11 tables and my match was called the first round. Unfortunately, they paused the one pocket finals for the calcutta, and needed the TV table for the finals, which happened right after the Calcutta. That left only 10 tables, and my match was on 11. So I had to wait for the first open table of the first round to finish. My match ended up starting at midnight (and was the only match). I played the match, then afterwards stayed on for 2 hours hitting balls until the 1 pocket was over and the place closed. I got a good feel for the table and felt good. Incidentally, I was on a 30 some hour fast. It was not intentional, just the way it worked out. I didn't want to eat and have to go to the toilet in the middle of my match. And I also didn't want to eat and get tired during my match. So I just stayed fasted. I actually felt pretty good that way. I don't think I actually broke my fast until after my second match the next day, but I can't remember 100% right now.
I hadn't really watched any matches. Just a few min here, a few min there. On the last day I made an effort to watch one match to see what I could learn from the pattern play. I decided to watch Kazakis vs Roland Garcia. Next to them was Tyler vs I forget. I couldn't focus enough to watch the whole match. It was uncanny. I guess I need to train myself to do that. ha ha.
The main sponsor was Bull Carbon. I shot with their shafts a few min and liked them. They have a quick change joint system, it reminded me of the Smart Shaft by Bill Stroud about 25 years ago.
The 1 pocket was supposed to be full at 32 players. My buddy tried to sign up a month ago, and the TD told him it was full with a waiting list. There turned out to be 8 byes in the bracket. The 9 ball was similar. The sign up chart had about 120 players, but only 89 were physically in the building and paid. I felt a bit bad for the TD and sponsors that so many players were no-shows from both tournaments.
I only said hello to Oscar, who I met before at DCC, Bigtruck, and Kazakis. I hadn't met Kazakis before. I went up to him and introduced myself and he said "so you're the other Greek". We had a brief chat, and I let him know I'd been following him for years and wished him luck. I left after that, went to Wendy's, then went and crashed at the hotel, to leave the next morning.
All in all I had fun, and it was good motivation for practice leading up to the event. I'd do it again, but I wouldn't do it frequently
This has become one of my favorite threads. Maybe I missed it, but what's your FR goal? I'd think 600 wouldn't be out of the question.
Love this thread.
Personal side note: I grew up with a table, hustled in bars a bit through college ‘84-92, and played casual BCA leagues and a few local tournaments between 2012-2014 in California, and between 2015-2017 in Texas. A couple highlights (lowlights?) were donating a few hundred to Oscar over a few games of 9-ball in Danville CA, and getting smoked by CJ Wiley in my third match of the Texas 9-Ball Open in Round Rock TX. Weekly league night was mostly an excuse to smoke and drink. I didn’t know FargoRate was “a thing” during those periods.
I just looked myself up, and was surprised to find I’m in the system, but I’m in there twice under the same name in both states. In each I’m in the 560 range with a robustness of 50-60. @mikepage, any way to consolidate those two accounts?
Anyway, I just got back into pool (have been immersed in golf since 2017, dropped my index there from a 15 to a 3), and I’m looking forward to getting back into stroke and competing a little. Definitely think I can get my FR over 600 with some dedication and practice, which I’ve never really focused on prior to now. Just have to get past my back surgery tomorrow for my blown L4-5 disc, ugh.
Personal side note: I grew up with a table, hustled in bars a bit through college ‘84-92, and played casual BCA leagues and a few local tournaments between 2012-2014 in California, and between 2015-2017 in Texas. A couple highlights (lowlights?) were donating a few hundred to Oscar over a few games of 9-ball in Danville CA, and getting smoked by CJ Wiley in my third match of the Texas 9-Ball Open in Round Rock TX. Weekly league night was mostly an excuse to smoke and drink. I didn’t know FargoRate was “a thing” during those periods.
I just looked myself up, and was surprised to find I’m in the system, but I’m in there twice under the same name in both states. In each I’m in the 560 range with a robustness of 50-60. @mikepage, any way to consolidate those two accounts?
Anyway, I just got back into pool (have been immersed in golf since 2017, dropped my index there from a 15 to a 3), and I’m looking forward to getting back into stroke and competing a little. Definitely think I can get my FR over 600 with some dedication and practice, which I’ve never really focused on prior to now. Just have to get past my back surgery tomorrow for my blown L4-5 disc, ugh.
600 would be nice. There is a 595 that's a very tough game for me. Could be something to strive for.
I've been searching for a FargoRate in GA for 2 years and finally found one. There is a new room that opened up about a year ago in Macon, GA, which is about 1.5 hrs from me. They've been holding weekly tournaments but APA type ratings, so I never went. Now they are switching to Fargo and having an open $1000 added monthly event. They also just got brand new 7' Diamonds a couple weeks ago. Tomorrow is the first monthly event. I thought I'd sneak in, but I saw the players list and some of the better players in Atl already signed up, ha ha.
The tournament was fun. The room was new, the tables, balls, cloth, were all brand new. The owner added 1000 to the tourney, and 500 to the break pot. I thanked him at the end of the night and said to him I hope he did ok.
Only 28 players showed up, I was surprised. Most of them traveled a good 1.5 hrs to get there, and were the better players in Atlanta and surrounding cities. The blind bid went for 440 and went to one of the top guys in Atl who I've known for 14 years, who ended up winning the whole thing.
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I won my first match 7-3 to a player that did not have a fargo. My second match I lost 2-7. I played jam up safeties and won BIH a few times, but I couldn't run all the way out, and it cost me. This player was 595/90 and ended up in 4th place.
My third match I was hot from losing my second. And the first couple games my mind wasn't right and I tried blasting the 9 a few times. My opponent was also 70 something years old, and I thought he couldn't play. Little did I know. The first couple racks he won but they were tick tock outs. I didn't realize he could play till the middle of the match, and then I was impressed, and started bearing down. He had me 4-1. Then I broke and ran 2 of the next 3, and the one I missed the run out I ended up winning, getting the score to 4-4. He won the next game, and came to shake my hand. I looked at him with a dumb look on my face, and he said it was a race to 5 on the one loss side. Ah, it hit me! He was on the hill the whole time and I didn't even know. I ended up being more upset with not knowing than losing the match, ha ha. He asked me to play $20 racks later, to which I said yes. I looked him up afterwards and he didn't have a fargo. I was also impressed how fast he played. He was by far the fastest player there. I'd say close to Strickland speed.
As an aside, I never look up ratings before my matches, only after. I actually like going in cold and assuming everyone can play well.
A bit later we were all watching the matches, and a pool detective was asking the top player who ended up winning (659/249) how good the old guy plays. I think he was going to play him in his next round. I was sitting next to them so overheard. He whispered in his ear that he was a champion, and could easily give him the 6 when he was younger, and that his nickname is Tony Fargo. It turns out he is in the Bank Pool hall of fame at onepocket.org from 2008.
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I didn't say anything, but sat next to him the rest of the matches and we chatted. I asked him what was the most he ever played for and he said 10k, but he doesn't gamble like that anymore. I actually wanted to play him bank pool for that 20/rack for a lesson. Bank pool might be my favorite game. He went deep in the tournament getting 5th, and I had to take off, so we didn't play.
I'm not sure how my fargo will change seeing as 2 of my 3 opponents didn't have any data. It should go up with the Tony match that I lost 4-5, because he beat and/or went hill/hill or close to with a lot of good players with Fargos in the 600's. But my 2-7 loss to the 595 will probably pull me down.
Also the digital pool performance tab was weird. One, it had me as a 530 instead a 540. I guess that's hand typed in, IDK? Second, the performance of the players was all over the place. It had the winner, Tim Orange, who is a 659 with a performance rating of a 488. He played good the whole event, and beat the guy with the highest fargo of 709 in the hot seat, 7-2, then lost the first finals set 5-7, then won the second finals set 7-4. 19-13 3 set score vs a 709. So his tournament performance should have been higher than his real rating. (as an aside, the second set of the finals should have been race to 5. IDK if the score was wrong, or they really played it to 7. I was home by then and saw the score on the digital pool site.)
The payouts were nice. 910 for first and 1024 first for the calcutta. I will definitely go again if the owner keeps having this tournament.
Only 28 players showed up, I was surprised. Most of them traveled a good 1.5 hrs to get there, and were the better players in Atlanta and surrounding cities. The blind bid went for 440 and went to one of the top guys in Atl who I've known for 14 years, who ended up winning the whole thing.
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I won my first match 7-3 to a player that did not have a fargo. My second match I lost 2-7. I played jam up safeties and won BIH a few times, but I couldn't run all the way out, and it cost me. This player was 595/90 and ended up in 4th place.
My third match I was hot from losing my second. And the first couple games my mind wasn't right and I tried blasting the 9 a few times. My opponent was also 70 something years old, and I thought he couldn't play. Little did I know. The first couple racks he won but they were tick tock outs. I didn't realize he could play till the middle of the match, and then I was impressed, and started bearing down. He had me 4-1. Then I broke and ran 2 of the next 3, and the one I missed the run out I ended up winning, getting the score to 4-4. He won the next game, and came to shake my hand. I looked at him with a dumb look on my face, and he said it was a race to 5 on the one loss side. Ah, it hit me! He was on the hill the whole time and I didn't even know. I ended up being more upset with not knowing than losing the match, ha ha. He asked me to play $20 racks later, to which I said yes. I looked him up afterwards and he didn't have a fargo. I was also impressed how fast he played. He was by far the fastest player there. I'd say close to Strickland speed.
As an aside, I never look up ratings before my matches, only after. I actually like going in cold and assuming everyone can play well.
A bit later we were all watching the matches, and a pool detective was asking the top player who ended up winning (659/249) how good the old guy plays. I think he was going to play him in his next round. I was sitting next to them so overheard. He whispered in his ear that he was a champion, and could easily give him the 6 when he was younger, and that his nickname is Tony Fargo. It turns out he is in the Bank Pool hall of fame at onepocket.org from 2008.
Tony Ferguson
www.onepocket.org
I didn't say anything, but sat next to him the rest of the matches and we chatted. I asked him what was the most he ever played for and he said 10k, but he doesn't gamble like that anymore. I actually wanted to play him bank pool for that 20/rack for a lesson
. Bank pool might be my favorite game. He went deep in the tournament getting 5th, and I had to take off, so we didn't play.I'm not sure how my fargo will change seeing as 2 of my 3 opponents didn't have any data. It should go up with the Tony match that I lost 4-5, because he beat and/or went hill/hill or close to with a lot of good players with Fargos in the 600's. But my 2-7 loss to the 595 will probably pull me down.
Also the digital pool performance tab was weird. One, it had me as a 530 instead a 540. I guess that's hand typed in, IDK? Second, the performance of the players was all over the place. It had the winner, Tim Orange, who is a 659 with a performance rating of a 488. He played good the whole event, and beat the guy with the highest fargo of 709 in the hot seat, 7-2, then lost the first finals set 5-7, then won the second finals set 7-4. 19-13 3 set score vs a 709. So his tournament performance should have been higher than his real rating. (as an aside, the second set of the finals should have been race to 5. IDK if the score was wrong, or they really played it to 7. I was home by then and saw the score on the digital pool site.)
The payouts were nice. 910 for first and 1024 first for the calcutta. I will definitely go again if the owner keeps having this tournament.
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Sounds like the usual tournaments with a wide range of skill levels low to high.The tournament was fun. The room was new, the tables, balls, cloth, were all brand new. The owner added 1000 to the tourney, and 500 to the break pot. I thanked him at the end of the night and said to him I hope he did ok.
Only 28 players showed up, I was surprised. Most of them traveled a good 1.5 hrs to get there, and were the better players in Atlanta and surrounding cities. The blind bid went for 440 and went to one of the top guys in Atl who I've known for 14 years, who ended up winning the whole thing.
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I won my first match 7-4 to a player that did not have a fargo. My second match I lost 2-7. I played jam up safeties and won BIH a few times, but I couldn't run all the way out, and it cost me. This player was 595/90 and ended up in 4th place.
My third match I was hot from losing my second. And the first couple games my mind wasn't right and I tried blasting the 9 a few times. My opponent was also 70 something years old, and I thought he couldn't play. Little did I know. The first couple racks he won but they were tick tock outs. I didn't realize he could play till the middle of the match, and then I was impressed, and started baring down. He had me 4-1. Then I broke and ran 2 of the next 3, and the one I missed the run out I ended up winning, getting the score to 4-4. He won that game, and came to shake my hand. I looked at him with a dumb look on my face, and he said it was a race to 5 on the one loss side. Ah, it hit me! He was on the hill the whole time and I didn't even know. I ended up being more upset with not knowing than losing the match, ha ha. He asked me to play $20 racks later, to which I said yes. I looked him up afterwards and he didn't have a fargo. I was also impressed how fast he played. He was by far the fastest player there. I'd say close to Strickland speed.
As an aside, I never look up ratings before my matches, only after. I actually like going in cold and assuming everyone can play well.
A bit later we were all watching the matches, and a pool detective was asking the top player who ended up winning (659/249) how good the old guy plays. I think he was going to play him in his next round. I was sitting next to them so overheard. He whispered in his ear that he was a champion, and could easily give him the 6 when he was younger, and that his nickname is Tony Fargo. It turns out he is in the Bank Pool hall of fame at onepocket.org from 2008.
Tony Ferguson
I didn't say anything, but sat next to him the rest of the matches and we chatted. I asked him what was the most he ever played for and he said 10k, but he doesn't gamble like that anymore. I actually wanted to play him bank pool for that 20/rack for a lesson
I'm not sure how my fargo will change seeing as 2 of my 3 opponents didn't have any data. It should go up with the Tony match that I lost 4-5, because he beat and/or went hill/hill or close to with a lot of good players with Fargos in the 600's. But my 2-7 loss to the 595 will probably pull me down.
Also the digital pool performance tab was weird. One, it had me as a 530 instead a 540. I guess that's hand typed in, IDK? Second, the performance of the players was all over the place. It had the winner, Tim Orange, who is a 659 with a performance rating of a 488. He played good the whole event, and beat the guy with the highest fargo of 709 in the hot seat, 7-2, then lost the first finals set 5-7, then won the second finals set 7-4. 19-13 3 set score vs a 709. So his tournament performance should have been higher than his real rating. (as an aside, the second set of the finals should have been race to 5. IDK if the score was wrong, or they really played it to 7. I was home by then and saw the score on the digital pool site.)
The payouts were nice. 910 for first and 1024 first for the calcutta. I will definitely go again if the owner keeps having this tournament.
Excellent post and a great thread.
Its amazing how well one has to play to even win an Open, local event.
Yup.
Don't have the focus to play in tournaments anymore especially if they are run badly.
The waiting between matches is a killer for me anymore.
I always used to say before the tournament that today is anything can happen day.
Just gotta grind it out.
I was thinking about the performance ratings being so far off (for everyone, it had everyone underperforming). I wonder if the players who have no Fargo data are treated as having a Fargo of zero in the digitalpool bracket. That may explain it.
My scores from the last tournament were just added to Fargo. I climbed slowly 5 points. I'm almost established, and I'm about 20 points lower than I thought I'd be on the first post.
I also checked the scores of the 3 guys I played.
Opp 1 I won 7-3, he was not in the system the day of. Now he's 446/17
Opp 2 I lost 2-7. He was 595/90 the day of, now he's 630/154
Opp 3 I lost 4-5, banks HOF Tony Fargo Ferguson. He was not in the system the day of, now he's 666/51
The winner of the tournament (whom I did not play) was 659/249 the day of, and now he's 682/323.
Second place was 709/? day of, and now is 693/108.
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Adding my own stats to the mix - I just started USAPL so that's where the input is going to come from.
Starter rating: 450, after 1 week of USAPL play - still 450 (12 robustness). These were my results:
10 ball: Lost 4-2 to a Fargo 478
8 ball: Tied 3-3 to a Fargo 524 (win via handicap)
So, per the math: Losing by a 2:1 ratio to a Fargo 478 would throw 6 racks of a "Fargo 378" type performance into the system However tying the 524 would throw 6 racks of a "Fargo 524" type performance in there.
Funny enough: The average of 378 and 524 is ..... 451. So for the night I played dead on my starter rating.
Starter rating: 450, after 1 week of USAPL play - still 450 (12 robustness). These were my results:
10 ball: Lost 4-2 to a Fargo 478
8 ball: Tied 3-3 to a Fargo 524 (win via handicap)
So, per the math: Losing by a 2:1 ratio to a Fargo 478 would throw 6 racks of a "Fargo 378" type performance into the system However tying the 524 would throw 6 racks of a "Fargo 524" type performance in there.
Funny enough: The average of 378 and 524 is ..... 451. So for the night I played dead on my starter rating.
Interesting stuff here! I’ve only skimmed the thread so apologies if this has been covered or I’m misunderstanding. But it seems like most of your games are coming from being tournaments you travel to. I’ve often wondered what sort of impact “road scores” would have on a Fargo rating compared to someone who’s rating is calculated primarily from their home league and tournaments. The familiarity and comfortability factor has to play some role. Though I suppose for some other people they may also get more geared up or prepped for a tournament they travel to so I suppose it could work both ways.
There can also be more alcohol involved on a league night, the FargoRate APP should probably also come with a breathalyzer. @mikepage
this guy plays at 540 speed? who knew