My Fargorate progression

Some quick updates:

Last week I played a top local player I've known for 25 years a week ago some cheap sets. I'd estimate he's about a 700. He killed me. 3-7, 1-7, 3-7. Total 5-21. We played on 9' Blue diamonds in PA and used the MR break format.

A couple days later I played in a chip format. This was a big one. $60 entry, full 64 player field, and a big side pot. I bought myself for $200 in the side pot. It was played in a bar in PA with 5 7' Blue diamonds. Long story short I played jam up, and had the 5th best win rate. Due to the chip structure however, I lost out of the money. It was funny, the top 6 guys in the win/loss only 2 cashed I believe, and one cashed in last place. I forget what the second cashed at. I asked the tournament directors if they report to Fargo. They say they normally do for their smaller events, but this event was too big and too much hassle so they didn't. The winner got about 5K between the purse and the calcutta.

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After the tournament a stranger asked me to play. He was not in the tournament. I jumped at the chance. We played 8 ball sets to 4 for $50. He didn't want to play 9 ball. He was super strong, I felt outmanned. I've never seen a player that strong not want to play 9 ball, it was very strange. The funny thing is I played the best pool of my life probably. I ran a 2 pack to go hill-hill the first set, and the prior rack I out moved him and ran out. He wanted to change to last pocket 8 ball, which must have been his specialty game. I said no way. Anyway, he won the first set hill-hill. I won the second set also hill-hill, both of us running out pretty much every opportunity. We quit, and I felt I escaped. I found out his name afterwards and looked him up. He was a 662 with about 1000 robustness.
 
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Last night I played at a chip tournament in DE. No fargo unfortunately. This director submits fargo for his normal tournaments but not chip tournaments. I again felt I was the best player in the room, and I had the same starting chips (the lowest) as 4 other players. So I felt my chance of winning was high. I win the first 6 games in a row. I'm not kidding, I thought I'd win the whole event undefeated. Alas, I proceed to lose the next 5, and then split the next 4. So I lost all my chips immediately. ha ha. Such is pool.

I've been going to this room maybe 5 times over the past 3 months and starting to know the players. Every time I go I ask if anyone wants action, but it's super hard because they have only 7 tables and all are used for the tournament. This night was different. I and another guy that gambles lost early, and there was a table open. We played a race to 5. I was up 4-0 and he quit early, payed me, and left.

Then another guy asked to gamble. We played 8 ball race to 5. The first set went hill-hill. So we backed it up and jacked it. I won the second set 5-2.

I looked up their ratings when I got home. First guy was 384 with over 1000 games. Second guy was 526 with over 1500 games.
 
I played my first Fargorate tournament about three years ago. I played out of my mind two matches and fairly normal the other 4 or 5 and finished third. The next night I played in the second one finishing just out of the money. A week later my Fargorate was 696, WTF. It's been going down ever since. The last several Fargorate tournaments I've played in I can't seem to beat the low 600 guys. Such is pool, very inconsistent.
Are you still in NOLA ?
 
Some quick updates:

Last week I played a top local player I've known for 25 years a week ago some cheap sets. I'd estimate he's about a 700. He killed me. 3-7, 1-7, 3-7. Total 5-21. We played on 9' Blue diamonds in PA and used the MR break format.

A couple days later I played in a chip format. This was a big one. $60 entry, full 64 player field, and a big side pot. I bought myself for $200 in the side pot. It was played in a bar in PA with 5 7' Blue diamonds. Long story short I played jam up, and had the 5th best win rate. Due to the chip structure however, I lost out of the money. It was funny, the top 6 guys in the win/loss only 2 cashed I believe, and one cashed in last place. I forget what the second cashed at. I asked the tournament directors if they report to Fargo. They say they normally do for their smaller events, but this event was too big and too much hassle so they didn't. The winner got about 5K between the purse and the calcutta.

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After the tournament a stranger asked me to play. He was not in the tournament. I jumped at the chance. We played 8 ball sets to 4 for $50. He didn't want to play 9 ball. He was super strong, I felt outmanned. I've never seen a player that strong not want to play 9 ball, it was very strange. The funny thing is I played the best pool of my life probably. I ran a 2 pack to go hill-hill the first set, and the prior rack I out moved him and ran out. He wanted to change to last pocket 8 ball, which must have been his specialty game. I said no way. Anyway, he won the first set hill-hill. I won the second set also hill-hill, both of us running out pretty much every opportunity. We quit, and I felt I escaped. I found out his name afterwards and looked him up. He was a 662 with about 1000 robustness.
You should include last pocket 8 ball in your practice. It is a really great game for forcing you to think about patterns in a deeper way, and will force you to get better at the tougher shots you are forced to play to preserve the pattern.

PLUS, it is a good gambling game against those players who overemphasize shotmaking over proper pattern play. I shot my way out of a trap against the second best player in Belize once by switching the game from 8 ball to last pocket 8 ball to get even in a gambling match. He shot way straighter than me, but was not a true student of the game.
 
I’m a 480 but Im unestablished because I’m a working man and a single father with two boys. I would like to think I’m around a 600 speed but my lack of playing in Fargo rated events prevents me from an accurate rating.

Overall I think Fargo is pretty accurate with the rating of players skill levels but I’m not one of them but hey…. I need 3 on the wire going to 7 😘
 
I played in a weekly fargo tournament tonight in PA. I stunk it up. This was actually the first tournament since I started this thread where I felt bad at the start of the night. Not confident. I wanted to go back home and go to bed. Every other event I wanted to gamble everyone in the room, sight unseen.

Live to fight another day.
 
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My data from the sept 22 tournament was entered today (sept 30). However, my data from the Sept 1 tournament where I killed it is still not in the data set. Same tournament and director. I guess something is wrong with the Sept 1 tournament. Fargo is now 480.
 
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My data from the sept 22 tournament was entered today (sept 30). However, my data from the Sept 1 tournament where I killed it is still not in the data set. Same tournament and director. I guess something is wrong with the Sept 1 tournament. Fargo is now 480.

480 seems very low for someone that breaks and runs often. Even as a 550ish player my break and run amounts are only a few a day on average. A 480 really would be at one or two break and runs a week. 480 is a C+ player, maybe at the bottom of B. I play and played in several leagues and tournaments that use Fargo, a 480 with me is about a 5-4 or a 5-3 race, and I win most of the time even with the handicap, but I am not winning if they break and run 1 or 2 of those games, not even close.
 
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My tournament from 9/1 just got added to the data. I contacted support and they found the issue right away. One player was missing their last name. I asked the tournament director to fix it. I jumped from 480 to 531, 51 points. I've been in the 300's, 400's, and now 500's:)

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My tournament from 9/1 just got added to the data. I contacted support and they found the issue right away. One player was missing their last name. I asked the tournament director to fix it. I jumped from 480 to 531, 51 points. I've been in the 300's, 400's, and now 500's:)

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Okay, that's it. We're playing even at DCC next time...
 
Put the average on trend lines. The way it is Fargo and Robustness is data for smoothing. The individual trends can be misleading.

The average would help show the clear threshold jump.
 
Which graph do you guys like the best. All 3 show the exact same information. .
I like the last one. Bar graphs have too much wasted ink. If the software allows it, it is better to put the labels on the plot by the indicated curve. That way we don't have to track line type.
 
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What's your starter rating?
I don't have one.

A couple of the local tournament directors who know me have put me at 525, 550, and I think 560. But that was only on their local score sheet for the handicaps. It never went back to Fargo.
 
My tournament from 9/1 just got added to the data. I contacted support and they found the issue right away. One player was missing their last name. I asked the tournament director to fix it. I jumped from 480 to 531, 51 points. I've been in the 300's, 400's, and now 500's:)

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Interesting to know that no last name will choke fargo software. I can't remember ever using a last name to sign into a tournament. I gambled as "Hu" and let people spell it however they wanted to. Funny but if I signed in anywhere with my real name I would be anonymous.

Hu
 
Hu Anonymous ? No middle initial?😁
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I am named after an uncle which I think makes me Hu 2. Kinda has a ring to it but who wants to be second? I had a friend named Hugh. Still friends, just ain't seen him in ages. It was funny when we went out partying together. Meet girls, "I am Hu and he is Hugh too. "Oh, if you don't want to tell us your names that's OK!" Hard to get them to believe we were serious. Told the story to my friend Dave. He laughed, he ran around with three friends, all named Dave! Most people thought two Hus were at least one too many, just have to wonder what they thought about four Daves!

Hu
 
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