Tap or Template?

[ShootingArts]

Already been proposed. Template with the balls too far apart so nobody's frozen.

First shot after the break must be a push out. That makes both the rack and the break nearly irrelevant.

I have wondered how a rack with huge gaps would work. Maybe 3/16". I suspect that Shane and Corey, a few more that work on the break, would have it doped in short order and the other top players would copy them. I have also wondered about the game the Mexicans seem to favor with all the balls arranged around the rails. Looks like a drill though and I hate most drills. So far the best solution I have found is snooker.

Hu

 

[garczar]

The new 'RackZapper' rack will have programmable 'slug settings', just dial in how good or bad a rack you need.

 

[Bob Jewett]

The new 'RackZapper' rack will have programmable 'slug settings', just dial in how good or bad a rack you need.

I think I know exactly who you have been conspiring with. You, of all people.

 

[garczar]

I think I know exactly who you have been conspiring with. You, of all people.

SSSSH. Don't blow my cover. My crack advisory staff is made up up PHd's and vagabond reprobates. All are master rack magicians.

 

[Island Drive]

Bob, it's just another form of US Open this/that/and over there in NV.

 

[straightline]

The new 'RackZapper' rack will have programmable 'slug settings', just dial in how good or bad a rack you need.

match up to the numbers...

 

[skogstokig]

I think I know exactly who you have been conspiring with. You, of all people.

john lehman?

 

[Island Drive]

BuckZapper..... skog. ?

 

[dr_dave]

1. They hard tapped the head ball to create a non-visual cloth/spot dent/divot on the new spot.
They did NOT use a template (Perfect) and each rack was ''tight and right''.
The lower 8 balls were also seated in the cloth this way with a softer hit/nice.
Watch the referee racking, when he rolls each set of lower balls upward into the 1 ball... they snug up/freeze they are Tight.
New cloth is thicker, and tapping is easy. ALL Lower balls are frozen to the balls above each set as they are rolled into place.

For those interested, this video demonstrates a simple way to “train” the table:

 

[dr_dave]

I believe the tapping is done with a template with holes the right spacing to help the balls stay tight, so a little closer to each other than a ball diameter.

For those interested, printable templates with various hole spacings can be found near the bottom of the page here:

how to get a tight rack​

 

[Island Drive]

Thx for the video DD....

My tap thinking Dave was a skosh different and much quicker, once the structure was squared away with the foot rail.
Once the full rack was set in place, I would of thought to simplify tapping I would do this.

While Jewett was holding the rack of15 balls in place, he'd move the entire ball set a skosh upward/snug it up against the head ball.
Next.... you would be able to tap all 14 ''in place'' quickly while Jewett was holding em in place.

By moving thee entire lower 14 ball set upward a skosh, it would then cause the head ball to lean back into the lower balls, allowing gravity to do it's work.

Your thoughts?

bm

 

[dr_dave]

Thx for the video DD....

My tap thinking Dave was a skosh different and much quicker, once the structure was squared away with the foot rail.
Once the full rack was set in place, I would of thought to simplify tapping I would do this.

While Jewett was holding the rack of15 balls in place, he'd move the entire ball set a skosh upward/snug it up against the head ball.
Next.... you would be able to tap all 14 ''in place'' quickly while Jewett was holding em in place.

By moving thee entire lower 14 ball set upward a skosh, it would then cause the head ball to lean back into the lower balls, allowing gravity to do it's work.

Your thoughts?

bm

That could work, but it is much better if all the perimeter balls are trained to lean toward the center of the rack. That results in a better training that lasts longer.

 

[Island Drive]

That could work, but it is much better if all the perimeter balls are trained to lean toward the center of the rack. That results in a better training that lasts longer.

thx

 

[Bob Jewett]

I’d like to learn. Do tell.

To fix one bad divot... Rub the divot out as best you can possibly using water to raise the cloth a little. Very, very carefully place a ball in the correct place using neighboring balls in good divots as a reference. The ball needs to be leaning very slightly towards the center of the rack. Pound in place. Check. If it's good, pound a little more. The water helps set the divot.

 

[VarmintKong]

To fix one bad divot... Rub the divot out as best you can possibly using water to raise the cloth a little. Very, very carefully place a ball in the correct place using neighboring balls in good divots as a reference. The ball needs to be leaning very slightly towards the center of the rack. Pound in place. Check. If it's good, pound a little more. The water helps set the divot.

Thanks for the reply.

I was wondering about the perma rack; Is it possible to do that on well worn cloth or does it need to be done immediately upon recovery?

My dad has a really heavy iron at his house and I was thinking a little steam and that might do the trick to reset the divots in the rack.

 

[Island Drive]

I don't think I'd put the iron/On the cloth, and if it's 3 slates where they face up, I'd wanna know what was used in between.

 

[DeadStick]

Thanks for the reply.

I was wondering about the perma rack; Is it possible to do that on well worn cloth or does it need to be done immediately upon recovery?

My dad has a really heavy iron at his house and I was thinking a little steam and that might do the trick to reset the divots in the rack.

The Perma-Rack method relies on adhesive donuts on top of the cloth to make artificial “dents” in the cloth, so it doesn’t matter too much what the condition of the cloth is.

 

[Poolmanis]

It is standard to iron snooker tables. There are special irons for the purpose. (I wonder how hot they are.)

But I'm not sure ironing will raise divots.

you can adjust the heat on snooker irons. If it burns to table then it is too hot

 

[Poolmanis]

I don't think I'd put the iron/On the cloth, and if it's 3 slates where they face up, I'd wanna know what was used in between.

yeah. If it is beewax used, iron probably not good to use. Otherwise it won´t do any bad to table. It does not really do anything to pool tables. No harm or help. Snooker it is must to get nap down to keep cloth good condition.

 

[derangedhermit]

I've been using the Perma Rack system for over a year now, got the idea ever since Jason Shaw used something similar when he set his record. I use the clear Avery hole savers instead of the white ones because they are thinner. They are about HALF the thickness of any template (and I have them all). Anyone who has played on my table has remarked how they completely forget that they're there once they start playing, they are that unobtrusive. Stun shots, cut shots, extreme draw shots, no problem. I usually have to replace one or two on an average of every two months or so as they will start to lift. I have never had one completely separate from the cloth. I have a custom made wood rack that I never use.
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I'm about to try this, to replace using a Magic Ball Rack on my home table. It's hard with my digital calipers to accurately measure something so thin, but the Magic Ball Rack and the Accu-rack are about 0.10mm-0.11mm. Same for the standard white Avery paper donuts. The clear plastic donuts (Avery 5721) are thinner, at about 0.06mm-0.07mm. I was wondering if they were TOO thin to give a tight rack, and am glad to hear they work fine.

To rack faster and easier, though, I have started back using my wooden rack to get the balls into place all at once when using any template rack. The wooden rack gets them close enough to settle and keeps them from wandering off, and there's no fiddling around with individual balls, just brush them a time or two after removing the rack to make sure they are tight.