My aiming system is guessing....who use the Guessing System?
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When I first started practicing 14.1, I made the break ball less than 50% of the time. The Poolology geometry works well near the 1-ball in the diagram below, so to start a run I setup a 1/2 ball hit, which is easy to aim--you aim the center of the CB at the edge of the OB. You can try it and see if it works better than feel for you.
In the diagram, the 1-ball position value is 18 along the long rail, so I set up the CB so the line of centers between the CB and 1-ball points at 9 (= half of 18) along the end rail. Then I aim the center of the CB at the right edge of the 1-ball (a half ball hit) with topspin. If the OB position value was 16 along the long rail, then I would setup the CB so that the line of centers between the CB and OB hit the end rail at 8 (= half of 16). Likewise, if the OB position value was 20, then I would setup the CB so that the line of centers between the CB and OB hit the end rail at 10 (= half of 20). In the diagram above, the vertical position of the 1-ball is irrelevant, only it's horizontal position along the long rail determines the 1-ball's "position value".
My initial break ball make percentage shot up to around 80% after doing that.
In the diagram, the 1-ball position value is 18 along the long rail, so I set up the CB so the line of centers between the CB and 1-ball points at 9 (= half of 18) along the end rail. Then I aim the center of the CB at the right edge of the 1-ball (a half ball hit) with topspin. If the OB position value was 16 along the long rail, then I would setup the CB so that the line of centers between the CB and OB hit the end rail at 8 (= half of 16). Likewise, if the OB position value was 20, then I would setup the CB so that the line of centers between the CB and OB hit the end rail at 10 (= half of 20). In the diagram above, the vertical position of the 1-ball is irrelevant, only it's horizontal position along the long rail determines the 1-ball's "position value".
My initial break ball make percentage shot up to around 80% after doing that.
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smiling_Hans
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Well you proceed to bring up a video of a professional.
I would be more impressed if you showed a video of, a peg-legged guy who is half blind, from the bus stop to shoot the shot.
I get the point but I just don't think that is a good idea aiming at something that can't be seen.
you said it was nonsense
i just wanted to show at least one person (darren) who disagrees
try it
you might be surprised at your success rate
I go by what a player plays and in this case, not necessarily what he says. This works for Appleton as well as guys like Keith Mcready who was known for that shot on the toughest 12 footer in the world - because their potting is cash worthy and "80%" consistent.
If the mortal player really wants to nail jacked up straight ins, there are many more issues to tackle and solve. Parallax error looms as a prime suspect, as does the concept of "straight in". The latter as a problem can be attributed to lack of information.
There is a simple way to check your perceptual alignment on a straight shot and that is to determine what the center to center line is actually pointed at. You will find the shot may be pre-cheated or pass through center pocket on some otherwise imperceptible and therefore unpredictable bias. Most will tough it out till the ball starts dropping and be done with it. Pool requires and indeed offers more precision than 80%.
For me, looking at lines does the trick. In this case if you extend the center pocket line back through the cue ball, the cue ball is often not even on that line. The good news is you are now looking at an actual angle - a perceptible degree of non linearity that you can "feel at" or however your shooting mechanics manifest.
I recall a snippet from somewhere that stated the human eye - or brain can detect some linear deviation on the order of .00001 inch or degree. I can only manage under 5 degreesI use guessing system. Often need to guess is this 21 or 22 degree cut
but it keeps me from getting stupid.
Not exactly a secret, somebody taught me this trick fifty years or so ago.
We can focus anywhere on the shot line, or even on the extended shot line out past the object ball. Once down on the shot a thousand yard stare works too, relax your eyes and focus on nothing.
Those wickedly long straight shots are tough when thinking about having to hit the object ball perfectly to not knock it off course. As Darren says, aiming at the pocket simplifies the shot. He is pretty smart, now if someone could just teach him to talk American!
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The same aiming system as for dating its called put it in the hole or hope and hit or stroking it.
Everyone can make their own target hole to shoot in, it doesn't have to be designated by anyone else.
Don't designate another person as the target hole. Use your hands to mark it.
Everyone can make their own target hole to shoot in, it doesn't have to be designated by anyone else.
Don't designate another person as the target hole. Use your hands to mark it.
Or train your dog to mark it.
Same..., minus 25yrs or so
. I'd wager any proficient long potter uses this method. I do it on nearly any long pot that contains an extrapolated CB path that isn't obstructed.
Do you mean like a bank/kick shot?
Besides, according to your earlier posts you don't aim, you just guess.
smiling_Hans
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For people that do aim.
I look, I bend down and shoot.
I look at object ball and I see its path to the pocket. So I shoot accordingly. Whether that is aiming or not but it is still a guess. I tell myself I need to hit it there and try and hit it there. LOL
smiling_Hans
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I would like to learn other systems but nobody can explain or summarize it quickly. I don't have the patience to learn them since I'm not a beginning pool player or a bad player. What I am doing is perfect for my game and good enough to beat most people.
If someone can summarize it then I will give it a shot.
Like aiming for the ghost ball thing. I've done it and it doesn't work because it will distort your perception of the object ball. You are basically looking into infinity, as I would describe it, and the OB is also in the way of your line of sight.
If someone can summarize it then I will give it a shot.
Like aiming for the ghost ball thing. I've done it and it doesn't work because it will distort your perception of the object ball. You are basically looking into infinity, as I would describe it, and the OB is also in the way of your line of sight.
Twocylndr
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Sounds like Ghost Ball method to me.
Maybe you already know this (maybe you're kidding), but the ghost ball is a visualization of the CB in the position it will be when it hits the OB - not behind the OB.
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smiling_Hans
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Yea behind it. So you have...... CUEBALL >>>>>OBJECT BALL>>>>GHOST BALL
He said line up my shot and aim at the ghost ball and I should picture the ghost ball sitting on the rail. The theory is the cue ball will hit the object ball because the OB is in the path. This will send the OB into the pocket. LOL
It didn't work and I told him it will never work. My mind just wouldn't let me look past the OB.
It's commonly understood to be CB > GHOST BALL > OBJECT BALL. The ghost ball is the visualized CB in contact with the OB to make the shot.
pj
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You're clearly not understanding ghost ball aiming. Maybe this will help: https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/ghost-ball/
smiling_Hans
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I know what it is.