DCC... UPDATE

I agree 100% if gambling but trying to run a tournament,especially with the buy-bak option, on time is another story altogether. The GR doesn't make the game 'gaffy'. Games with a lot of balls up table take too long in a tournament setting.

Only if you have a bad player to table ratio.

Lou Figueroa
 
I was getting ready to mention the JB video 🤣 my money's on Jay.

Clearly Lou is a 1 pocket pro of the highest order
I rarely if ever play any more and don’t gamble either. Just another guy sweating matches on the sidelines. Thanks anyway
 
I’m sorry if my opinion somehow offended you Lou. No doubt you are a far better known One Pocket player than me, and certainly more skilled at the game.

Compared to you I am a rank amateur. I watched in awe as you so easily dismantled John Barton and relieved him of ten grand. Just glad it wasn’t me getting chopped up like that.

It has to be tough when you have to explain the rules to your opponent. Who wants to play with guys like that?

I can see how a rule change could negatively affect all the years of knowledge you’ve acquired at One Pocket. I only wish that I had that same level of knowledge about the game.

Maybe it is best to have the current rules of One Pocket chiseled in stone somewhere, so they are never forgotten or tampered with.

Good luck this year at DCC! I hope you don’t have to endure the new rule in any of your matches. That would probably not be much fun for you.

How do you get that I’m offended?

I’ve been around way too long for that. And so now, instead of providing a reasoned response you bring up JB.

So not so many DCCs, right? US Opens? I mean, I’m asking about the last 30 years or so not more recently. I’m trying to remember and I think I’ve only seen you play 1pocket once and that was at Tunica when you played Joey a set for $500. (Since we’re bringing up old matches ;-). I recall Mark Griffin coming up to me and saying, “Looks like Joey has his hands full. I think I like Jay in this matchup.” And I said, “No, Jay has no chance, he just doesn’t known it. Joey is an experienced 1pocket player and you can see Jay is not.”

Lou Figueroa
 
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How do you get that I’m offended?

I’ve been around way too long for that. And so now, instead of providing a reasoned response you bring up JB.

So not so many DCCs, right? US Opens? I mean, I’m asking about the last 30 years or so not more recently. I’m trying to remember and I think I’ve only seen you play 1pocket once and that was at Tunica when you played Joey a set for $500. (Since we’re bringing up old matches ;-). I recall Mark Griffin coming up to me and saying, “Looks like Joey has his hands full. I think I like Jay in this matchup.” And I said, “No, Jay has no chance, he just doesn’t known it. Joey is an experienced 1pocket player and you can see Jay is not.”

Lou Figueroa
You were right. I had no chance. And it cost me 500 to realize my mistake. Haven’t played much the last 30 years. Been busy with other things.

But the 30 years before that I played a lot of pool. All distant memories now.
 
Or what may be the record, seven and a half hours. Darren Appleton vs. Tom Spencer, about 2014?
I know a guy from Calif. that was in a 6hr. 1p marathon at Derby, '05 maybe '06. They were the last match out and held up the re-buy for quite a while. Would using the GR water down the event? A less worthy champion? No. Super long matches aren't super common but all it takes is one or two to monkey-wrench the whole deal.
 
I know a guy from Calif. that was in a 6hr. 1p marathon at Derby, '05 maybe '06. They were the last match out and held up the re-buy for quite a while. Would using the GR water down the event? A less worthy champion? No. Super long matches aren't super common but all it takes is one or two to monkey-wrench the whole deal.
Not to worry, Lou knows best.
 
there are plenty of great 1p matches that surpasses 2 hours.. so i get the integrity of the game argument. but also the TD side of it. probably wouldn't appreciate it on the TV table tbh
 
Or what may be the record, seven and a half hours. Darren Appleton vs. Tom Spencer, about 2014?
And one guy watched it from start to finish! I asked him how he liked the match and he began blabbering incoherently, and his mouth was drooling.

The first recorded case of onepocketitis! Brought on by watching incessant safeties on the same ball for what seems like an eternity. Thankfully there was a 9-Ball match up next and he had a miraculous recovery.
 
I know a guy from Calif. that was in a 6hr. 1p marathon at Derby, '05 maybe '06. They were the last match out and held up the re-buy for quite a while. Would using the GR water down the event? A less worthy champion? No. Super long matches aren't super common but all it takes is one or two to monkey-wrench the whole deal.

That’s usually the case — one or two guys holding things up.

And typically, it’s only one guy in a match, not both, though anything can be going on. So you got a couple of slow guys. Change the rules for the entire event or have the TD pay the slow table a visit and take corrective action on the spot? I had that scenario happen to me at a US Open in Kalamazoo when my opponent just stopped shooting at his hole. The TD came around asked us both what was going on, made a ruling (that favored moi) and I won the match. But they didn’t go off the deep end and change the rules for the entire event because of one guy slow playing.

Lou Figueroa
 
Jay i think you know the guy i'm referring to, Phil Knight. Used to go to HT's a lot. Passed away a few yrs back.
Yes, I knew Phil. Nice guy, very knowledgeable, fairly well to do and a notorious locksmith. He didn’t want the nuts. He wanted the triple nuts!
 
Or what may be the record, seven and a half hours. Darren Appleton vs. Tom Spencer, about 2012?

Then there was the 14.1 finals from hell in Dayton one year.

It can happen at any game. The solution is not to change the rules. When I go to a 1pocket tournament I’m not interested in trying to remember how to play Line Up.

Lou Figueroa
 
More sarcasm and zero logic to support your position.

Lou Figueroa
For someone not mad you seem pretty pissy about it. There is precedent to back up having a rule(s) in place to help smooth out a tournament. No one is trying to change the game just help run an event, something Jay has more experience at than anyone on here.
 
That’s usually the case — one or two guys holding things up.

And typically, it’s only one guy in a match, not both, though anything can be going on. So you got a couple of slow guys. Change the rules for the entire event or have the TD pay the slow table a visit and take corrective action on the spot? I had that scenario happen to me at a US Open in Kalamazoo when my opponent just stopped shooting at his hole. The TD came around asked us both what was going on, made a ruling (that favored moi) and I won the match. But they didn’t go off the deep end and change the rules for the entire event because of one guy slow playing.

Lou Figueroa
There you go. Lou knows best again.
 
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