Archers Not So Comeback and Commentary

I'll take your word, Jay. I never knew this. Glad to learn that there's a precedent to inspire Johnny.
I looked it up. He was 58 when he won the U.S. Open 14.1 after a twelve year layoff! The year was 1967.
 
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And playing with one eye!
Just wondering Jay, was Kim totally impaired in his eye by that freak golf course incident when the ball hit his eye, or just partially? I know his game was never the same after that but somehow I thought he regained most of the vision from that eye as time went on.
 
I looked it up. He was 58 when he won the U.S. Open 14.1 after a twelve year layoff! The year was 1967.
Thanks, Jay. Good info. Caras, whose competitive resume I know well, is before my time, as I've been a pool fan since just 1976. Balsis' story, in which he had a layoff of about 23 years, I got from Joe himself, and I got to see the last few years of his career up close. Two truly amazing stories that could possibly inspire Archer.
 
thanks for clarifying.

I'm pulling for Archer for the sake of sentimentality, but he does come across as a bit shady

i too would like him to at least land on his feet financially, and do right with oscar. he was one of the first pros i watched play and although he was quite open about PED's, i don't remember him being shady. was he? i think it's a case of the situation makes the man, not the other way around

but a pool comeback just isn't happeng
 
pool players, like any sport. as you age your game goes downward proportionately. so be it and get used to it.

what determines your fate and true fame, will be your character. that will be what is remembered the most when it counts.
 
Jay, just curious about that last sentence - what happened to Caras in Burbank?
I was referring to Mosconi, not Caras. It was Willie’s last tournament. He was making a comeback of his own after a several year layoff. He was guaranteed 10K to play in it. Willie was tied with Balsis going into the final round of play. Cicero Murphy beat Willie and Balsis won the tourney. At the awards ceremony Mosconi took a swing at the promoter Arnie Satin, who had congratulated him for finishing second.
 
Just wondering Jay, was Kim totally impaired in his eye by that freak golf course incident when the ball hit his eye, or just partially? I know his game was never the same after that but somehow I thought he regained most of the vision from that eye as time went on.
I think he has little to no vision in one eye.
 
I was referring to Mosconi, not Caras. It was Willie’s last tournament. He was making a comeback of his own after a several year layoff. He was guaranteed 10K to play in it. Willie was tied with Balsis going into the final round of play. Cicero Murphy beat Willie and Balsis won the tourney. At the awards ceremony Mosconi took a swing at the promoter Arnie Satin, who had congratulated him for finishing second.
What a field!
From what I've read, two months before Worst died he competed in this 1966 World Straight Pool Championship, although severely ill he finished 4th. Tragic.
Super glad Cicero won.
As for Willie .... tragic isn't the word ... nuf said.
 
I would have mentioned Warren Kiamco too.
Although he was a capable player, Kiamco was never really counted among the elite. Presently 53, his last important title was the Derby City 9-ball in 2015 at age 45. Even if he returns to his top form, he's not in the conversation with the others.
 
Although he was a capable player, Kiamco was never really counted among the elite. Presently 53, his last important title was the Derby City 9-ball in 2015 at age 45. Even if he returns to his top form, he's not in the conversation with the others.
My bad. I didn't realize (nor research) his age. He always appeared to be older than what he actually is (sorry Warren). He was never among the elite, but if you didn't bring your "A" game he could certainly put you to the test. Scrappy at best.
 
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My bad. I didn't realize (nor research) his age. He always appeared to be older than what he actually is (sorry Warren). He was never among the elite, but if you didn't bring your "A" game he could certainly put you to the test. Scrappy at best.
I never understood the lack of love for Warren. Super solid. Not Busty but rock solid and that is why he's still out there in his 50s
 
Years back Warren made the finals at JA's Marrietta Billiards playing against Shane.

Rodney and Shannon Daulton did the commentary. I know they meant no harm but Warren was the butt of all their jokes.

Early in the match they were convinced Shane would steamroll Warren and told everyone that was listening.

Unfortunately Warren had other plans and ran out from everywhere. I think he won 13-5 or something decisive like that.

When he's in dead punch he's fun to watch...so smooth and a classy guy.
 
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