10 ball and i am calling.....safe
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Under WPA (and CSI) rules of 10 ball, a call of "safe" it has no effect on the shot. If you pocket a ball but not the ball and pocket you called, your opponent has the option of having you shoot again. The two rule sets are worded differently, but the result is the same.
I hope that you're a pretty good jumper, because you left yourself a pretty tough shot on the two…
Bob I am fully aware of that. I am playing my opponent and the table. I know my opponent will take the jumpshot. What the snooker commentators would label a shot to nothing.
tomatoshooter
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Your opponent is going to jump at the two and then try to shoot the three? Or hope to get safe? There is no way I wouldn't be giving the table back to you.
I don't think getting the cue ball out of the cluster for a shot at the two is that tall of an order. Getting from the two to the three may be difficult. I wouldn't bet on me being able to make a legal hit on the one without sinking it, but i think that would be the ideal play.
But you aren't my opponent.
I'm curious, who is this guy?
Even a very good jumper who's pretty confident in making the two ball is going to have to be world class to be able to draw back off that jump to a narrow window to get on the three...
My safe is basically a pushout. I can get a good jump/hit from there but..
You guys assume my opponent can make a great shot. I know they will probably get a good hit but hopefully give me a opportunity to play a lockdown safety. They may disrupt the whole table.
They have a jump cue and are going to use it. Perhaps you know the type.
You guys assume my opponent can make a great shot. I know they will probably get a good hit but hopefully give me a opportunity to play a lockdown safety. They may disrupt the whole table.
They have a jump cue and are going to use it. Perhaps you know the type.
Hell, I am the type!
I assume this is right after the break.....If so...I am calling push.....Ideally leaving the CB stuck to the end rail...and using the 8 to pocket the 1 and hopefully wedge up against the 3 off angle so the combo does not go...extra insurance against a fluke made jump shot with a view of the 3..........If my opponent jumps at it he really won't get a shot.....IF he/she makes me jump at it...I am looking for a jump safe for an opportunity later to out maneuver.
That's a ball in hand foul.
It's not clear what you are referring to. It is legal to pocket balls on a push out.
Against a lot of players, this is a viable strategy. Some players are reckless, overrate their jumping, and foul a lot while doing so. Id rather watch them attempt this jump shot than do it myself. If I call safe, i’m giving them an opportunity to make a mental mistake and go for it. Even if they don’t select this option, I’m no worse off than if I didn’t call safe. No downside.
Regardless it is not right after the break. I broke dry my opponent hung the 1.
In that case if you pocket a ball (calling safe) the incoming player has option........So I am not going to "blast" it...but I am going to call the one and hit it "smooth hard" to get the CB out enough to see the 2 and play a safe from there....
Well, if his opponent is confused by the call of "safe" he might think that it's his turn to shoot and he has no option.
Yeah not knowing the rules seems to be a common occurrence.Well, if his opponent is confused by the call of "safe" he might think that it's his turn to shoot and he has no option.
What about simply not calling? Would you need Hoang refereeing?
This. Good chances I would do a similar blast against most opponents … I like my chances better with a blast than with a jump … Though against a reckless/low skilled player who cannot resist a hero shot, I might do the “make ball, call safe” idea of the OP. This is especially true if I believe BIH for me is the likely result .
If I recall correctly, the OP started this thread to provide a counter-example to a claim that, in 10 ball, it is never advantageous to call safe when making a ball. It’s a good counter-example even though it doesn’t apply well to higher levels of competition. A claim of “never” ignores the existence of weak players making bad decisions.