I'd lag.... go rail ball and nudge the 8 on top of the one.
10 ball and i am calling.....safe
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3 foul rule so let's go.
I don't think this shot is possible. The cue ball will have follow spin since you can only strike the top half of the cue ball when bridging over the 9 ball. After making the 1 ball, the cue ball will hit the rail with follow, the follow spin will reverse off the rail into backspin, and the cue ball will stop around the 3 ball and 8 ball.
The only way to avoid this is to hit the 1 ball thin, which I don't think is possible without clipping the 3 ball.
Thus the comment..."smooth hard"......I want to get the ball rolling...but I don't want it to bite on the rail and stick there.....IMO blasting it would cause that to happen as you mention...........but if you smooth it you can get the ball to release and hopefully enough to get out past the 7 for a view of the 2.....I would much rather have a view of the 2 to shoot at (either to pocket the ball or play safe depending on where the 3 ends up)..... vs a jump shot....
Of course actually being at the table makes all the difference in the world as to judging the shot.....(Might even be able to get under the 3 and kick it out and wiggle between the rail and 10 for a shot on the 2 and now an open 3)
I think this post is really speaking about being aware of your opponent's weaknesses and use them to your advantage. For example, a lot of players never pass a push if they have a legal hit, so pushing out to shots with difficult to execute low reward defensive plays is a winning strategy. So maybe against his opponent this is a winning play.
The problem for me is that most of the people I'm playing know how to play pool and straying from optimal play is more likely going to hurt you than help you. So maybe you can find an opponent and in a spot like this just shoot the cue ball in the corner pocket because "Hah, this guy doesn't know what to do with ball in hand, and he can't run out". But that doesn't make it the right shot and doesn't work for me in my games.
But to OPs point, I have seen many times when people lose games shooting what they feel is the correct shot and not giving themselves permission to be in the here and now and think of what road leads to victory.
The problem for me is that most of the people I'm playing know how to play pool and straying from optimal play is more likely going to hurt you than help you. So maybe you can find an opponent and in a spot like this just shoot the cue ball in the corner pocket because "Hah, this guy doesn't know what to do with ball in hand, and he can't run out". But that doesn't make it the right shot and doesn't work for me in my games.
But to OPs point, I have seen many times when people lose games shooting what they feel is the correct shot and not giving themselves permission to be in the here and now and think of what road leads to victory.
I like the move, and believe blasting the 1 the wrong approach.
I'd probably play it the same and expect to have the 2 given back to me. The hit on the 2 is low impact child's play and I would not attempt to pot it. More so guide the 2 into a difficult area wherein potting it and getting on the 3 is slim. Maybe even just up and down back toward that cluster containing the 3.
Good call
I'd probably play it the same and expect to have the 2 given back to me. The hit on the 2 is low impact child's play and I would not attempt to pot it. More so guide the 2 into a difficult area wherein potting it and getting on the 3 is slim. Maybe even just up and down back toward that cluster containing the 3.
Good call
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That is an interesting thought, pretty much the same thing as playing a push out. You are just calculating the highest chance of a good outcome for you with everything you know about the player and the table you are on. In this case, you are hoping the player goes for the shot and messes up.
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He knows that he's not going to.
His opponent is a hypothetical chump.
You are getting this back from every skilled player alive.
Id ride the 9.
Fuggit.
Fuggit.
How tight is that table?
This is 10 ball go back to riding your bike
Tight enough that my opponent hung the 1.
Doesn't have much to do with my post but this table is 4 3/16" and those dirty pockets are brutal.
With the lens distortion the grooves look like on a snooker table. Not much slack regardless huh...
I'd try thinning the one, three, eight trilliard and running the rock out into the open for the two.
How'd you stick him with that leave? Not calling?
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So I hoped it was obvious you can't not make the 1 and not come back off the 3. Knowing this I just slow rolled the 1 in and came off the 3 barely nudging the 8. I wanted to be able to do the jump if I had to.
So you did a roll out and didn't make the one. Gotta take your word for it. That 1,3,8, back out towards the 9 looks very tempting. Also the 3, 10 double ticky looks doable. How much one can be hit?
So why don’t you CALL it a push?
I actually had a guy call safe on me at bank pool….I asked “Why are you telling me?”..…”Are you lonely?”
I can't play a push out then.
Let me explain this to be perfectly clear.
Push out is not a option.
I have to contact the 1 or it is a foul.
The 1 is too deep to do anything but make it if you hit it.
I called safe because I am sure my opponent will take the jumpshot rather then pass it back to me. If they do pass it back I have left a jump which I can at least get a good hit on.
I feel my chances to have a better opportunity after my opponent jumps are better then trying to get a clear shot on the 2 after pocketing the 1.