Thanks for the info. I'll admit I don't follow the juniors and didn't even know that the European Championships had junior events. Still, her play, which I saw live a few times when she was a teen, was not women's world class until she was about 18 or 19.she won the youth division in the european championship in several disciplines when she was 13. i mentioned jasmin because albin talked about her early successes in the commentary booth on the stream last week