Diamond bar boxes are trash

i was there when big daddy don garlits broke the 200 mph 1/4 mile at island speedway in great meadows n.j. 1964

i ran my chevy there but came about last in my class of j stock auto.
Do you recall which track he lost his leg on when that rear fuel he was driving broke loose??
 
I think it was Hertz or maybe Avis car rental company that quit renting the Shelby Cobras bcuz guts were renting them over the weekends and swapping out the engines to get one of those 429 Cobra jets.
I heard that many of the original viper rt 10s ( my favorite) didn’t survive. gobs and gobs of torque with nothing but a gas pedal and a steering wheel between you and doing something stupid combined with a car that wants to kill you seems to be a bad combo lol
 
Do you recall which track he lost his leg on when that rear fuel he was driving broke loose??

Lost a chunk of foot when his front engine rail came apart. I thought it was a clutch but I have slept way too many times since then. Had forgotten if I ever knew about a rear engine car taking a leg! He needed to keep his toes out of his engines and his engines out of his toes!

A man I knew generally built sprint car chassis. Decided he wanted to build a rail, the old fairly short front engine variety. Mickey was a country boy with little if any education. I doubt the word engineering even crossed his mind.

Strapped his driver in and started with a full power pass down the quarter mile! The chassis was way too stiff. The car stood on it's hind legs and just didn't stop coming up. After it got high enough it barrel rolled with one back tire all that was touching the ground. Almost killed his driver, he spent months in the hospital. That was the last the car builder went drag racing.

I wanted one of those Boss 429's, a Ford hemi engine. The sponsor of another dirt driver, a junkyard owner, had got his hands on one. When his driver didn't want it he crushed it to keep it out of anyone else's hands.

Hu
 
All in all worst tables I have ever played on. Shoot soft so you dont over run position. Shoot hard to get around the table and come up short.

9footers blue label / red label are serviceable but Brunswicks are still better.
I'm not much of a fan of Diamonds either, but this a skill issue not a table issue. What you are taking about is the playabiltiy of the cloth. You need to play on a vareity of tables. Some tables will play slightly different even in the same pool hall next to each other.
 
I was wondering how a thread about diamonds being crappy got to 7pgs so quickly. More chatter about cars then the pinball machines.

Soft rolling everything while praying it will hold or attempting to calculate 5 rail position isn't playing pool. Guess I suck. Proud of it
 
You are a good player , you know sometimes you have to play what the table gives you.
oh 100%.... ...and I have zero doubt that if I only played on diamonds I wouldn't have a less then stellar opinion of them. That said, out of all the various types and conditions of tables I've played on over the course of my time in pool rooms. Diamonds are the anomaly in the amount of adjustment that's required to play effectively. How something that's so different can somehow become a supposed "standard" is beyond me.

To be clear, I don't hate diamonds. I'm just annoyed by them.
 
I think it was Hertz or maybe Avis car rental company that quit renting the Shelby Cobras bcuz guts were renting them over the weekends and swapping out the engines to get one of those 429 Cobra jets.
Hertz rented GT350H's. Never had CJ's in them. Had a 306hp 289Hi-Po motor. Cars did come back with tape still on the headlites from where guys had gone racing over the weekend. Only 1000made in 66. Worth a BOATLOAD of $$ now about $175k average.
 
i was also at long island speedway when he was the first to break 8 seconds i think it was 8 in a dragster.
funny cars went faster then.

he will be king of the quarter mile forever.
Garlits broke the 8 second barrier in Dec of 1958, I think it was an AHRA race, but at any rate it would have been a long, long time ago. Maybe it was the 7 second or 6 second barrier??
 
dont remember but was it in a dragster. other cars that were lighter went faster.
i do think it was in around 1964 or 65 he broke the 8 second in his dragster. i kind of remember everyone cheering

later he just kept going faster and breaking every other speed record.
 
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Do you recall which track he lost his leg on when that rear fuel he was driving broke loose??
some track around wilmington or some such name in california. lost lake track or lions track something like that.
transmission blew up and cut off his toes on a foot.
he had one where it caught on fire . when you do that shit you get in a few bad spots and have to get lucky.
i had a few airplane wreaks and one i should have died in. now i boat instead.
 
some track around wilmington or some such name in california. lost lake track or lions track something like that.
transmission blew up and cut off his toes on a foot.
he had one where it caught on fire . when you do that shit you get in a few bad spots and have to get lucky.
i had a few airplane wreaks and one i should have died in. now i boat instead.

I wanted a pilot's license for a lot of years. Never got around to it. I have owned a handful of boats over the years. Probably just as well, I can swim but I can't fly!

Hu
 
I heard that many of the original viper rt 10s ( my favorite) didn’t survive. gobs and gobs of torque with nothing but a gas pedal and a steering wheel between you and doing something stupid combined with a car that wants to kill you seems to be a bad combo lol
Yeah, but if you keep it pristine, it'll pay for the kids college.😁
 
Hertz rented GT350H's. Never had CJ's in them. Had a 306hp 289Hi-Po motor. Cars did come back with tape still on the headlites from where guys had gone racing over the weekend. Only 1000made in 66. Worth a BOATLOAD of $$ now about $175k average.
Thanks for clarifying.👍🏻
 
oh 100%.... ...and I have zero doubt that if I only played on diamonds I wouldn't have a less then stellar opinion of them. That said, out of all the various types and conditions of tables I've played on over the course of my time in pool rooms. Diamonds are the anomaly in the amount of adjustment that's required to play effectively. How something that's so different can somehow become a supposed "standard" is beyond me.

To be clear, I don't hate diamonds. I'm just annoyed by them.
I’m not a fan of the way Diamonds bank short. Those super ball bouncy house cushions are comical. Plus, I don’t like bar boxes either. But, Diamond bar boxes are the only table to buy unless you hate your money. And in the south, bar box pool is really all there is. I’m moving to Florida next year and am looking forward to playing on 9ft tables outside of my house.

With that said, I started playing USAPL league 1 1/2 years ago. This is the most that I have ever played on the super ball tables. It took me 6 months before I stopped thinking about the speed and started playing and enjoying the game without thinking about it. FTR, I severely shortened my stroke. You don’t have to have a stroke anymore to play pool on a Diamond. Just hit it with your purse. I also use a ton of kill spin off the rails. I hate dinking the ball around like a limp wristed…

Three pool halls in town have Diamond bar boxes. They all play different. The rails are sensitive to anything that changes including ball brand and type. If the cloth gets dirty, that 1/4 Diamond short bank extends way beyond that.

Anyway, until a company decides to produce a quality box to compete with Diamond, this will never change.
 
I’m not a fan of the way Diamonds bank short. Those super ball bouncy house cushions are comical. Plus, I don’t like bar boxes either. But, Diamond bar boxes are the only table to buy unless you hate your money. And in the south, bar box pool is really all there is. I’m moving to Florida next year and am looking forward to playing on 9ft tables outside of my house.

With that said, I started playing USAPL league 1 1/2 years ago. This is the most that I have ever played on the super ball tables. It took me 6 months before I stopped thinking about the speed and started playing and enjoying the game without thinking about it. FTR, I severely shortened my stroke. You don’t have to have a stroke anymore to play pool on a Diamond. Just hit it with your purse. I also use a ton of kill spin off the rails. I hate dinking the ball around like a limp wristed…

Three pool halls in town have Diamond bar boxes. They all play different. The rails are sensitive to anything that changes including ball brand and type. If the cloth gets dirty, that 1/4 Diamond short bank extends way beyond that.

Anyway, until a company decides to produce a quality box to compete with Diamond, this will never change.
Played a few times on GC barboxes. I didn’t think they played much different than a diamond. Bang in Ballz in Vegas has some Rasson BB’s. I’ll be in Vegas at the end of the month and I’ll try them out.
 
I own a 9ft pro am and my league has diamond bar boxes. The difference really isn't the table or rails imo it's the sub standard cloth the league uses and they don't change it often and the balls are def not reg weight. This throws me off for the first few racks nothing to do with the table. Just my experience...
 
I own a 9ft pro am and my league has diamond bar boxes. The difference really isn't the table or rails imo it's the sub standard cloth the league uses and they don't change it often and the balls are def not reg weight. This throws me off for the first few racks nothing to do with the table. Just my experience...
9 ft tables have German cushions.
7 ft one have Chinese
 
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