WPA Bans 245 Players

... Next, MR's ranking system (as they have been implying everywhere like snooker and darts) sucks, let's put it straight. Had it been a mix of FargoRate multiplied by the result achieved and by the event's "power quotient" (like 30+ 800-and up rated players involved vs 10 or less of such makes a difference) - that would have been another story

Another example of that mockery is the stats shown during D2 of the Reyes Cup. Combined average ranking for Team Europe is 6, for Team Asia - 18. As long as they compile that stats and give it a go live, MR believes the reality is such. Very funny.
 
Just a small point of clarification, I'm not sure if you had a typo. The juniors do not have an entry fee at the MR events. They pay an entry fee to reserve their spot, but it is reimbursed at the event. This was written on the Junior's player contract someone posted here a few days ago.
I don't see how "no entry fee" and "pay an entry fee" go together :) Even though I get what you are driving at.
 
Interesting to see how many pool players will become multi millionaires in a 10 year span like Steve Davis or Stephen Hendry. Hearn might be blowing smoke and forgets there were fewer tournaments with huge sponsors and player endorsements back in the day. Tobacco and distillers were on board and today's pansy society has shut it all from advertising.
Good point. I think pool will grow each yr but to expect those kinds of payouts is a TAD premature. You gotta remember snooker was the no.1 show on BritTV with massive 'sin $$' as sponsors. But without MR it would be nowhere, still stuck in the post CamelTour-collapse days.
 
I'm not completely convinced on what Matchroom is doing. A very small number of pro players will be able to eke out a living playing strictly in Matchroom events, and that will not include women and juniors at all (Pia Filler made $2550 this year).

The Predator events included women, juniors, and at least while CSI was affiliated, were having large league championships alongside the pros in the US. There is also 8 ball, 10 ball, 1 pocket, banks, 14.1, none of which are done by Matchroom.

Pool is just shooting itself in the foot again, as usual.
 
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I recently talked to someone who is in a place to know about international cue sports markets. He told me something very surprising but was believable coming from him. He said: The majority of all cuesports players worldwide play heyball (Chinese 8-ball).
I meant no one here ;)

Of course a country with over a billion in population might consist of a numbers majority. What if you remove the Chinese and English players from that figure?
 
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I recently talked to someone who is in a place to know about international cue sports markets. He told me something very surprising but was believable coming from him. He said: The majority of all cuesports players worldwide play heyball (Chinese 8-ball).
If only we had more knowledgeable and insightful people like you, Mr Jewett...
 
I'm not completely convinced on what Matchroom is doing. A very small number of pro players will be able to eke out a living playing strictly in Matchroom events, and that will not include women and juniors at all (Pia Filler made $2550 this year).

The Predator events included women, juniors, and at least while CSI was affilicated, were having large league championships alongside the pros in the US. There is also 8 ball, 10 ball, 1 pocket, banks, 14.1, none of which are done by Matchroom.

Pool is just shooting itself in the foot again, as usual.
I think there are other options for making $ at the game but the simple fact is MR is driving the pro pool bus right now. All the others have their place but are down the pecking order. If Predator would cut the WPA cord and go out on their own they could possibly be viable competition to MR. BTW, i had to file away that V-dude to the Ignore pile. His MR-hating bs got old.
 
Here are the top players from the "lifetime earnings" list. I think the amounts are in GBP. All but Hendry and Davis are current tour players.
Thanks a bunch Bob. Exactly that.
American pool fanbase obviously has it hard realizing that those investments are going to serve about 20 to 30 players. Others will struggle even more than before WNT.
 
BTW, i had to file away that V-dude to the Ignore pile. His MR-hating bs got old.
Someone please PM Garczar that he got too gentle for a touch :p I loved that lil session of mutual picking. Well, Gar, obviously you've been KO'd.

Let's wait where all that MR love brings ya :)
 
They are quickly becoming nothing but a figure-head, at least in the 'pro' arena. I think the WPA has a place and that is in the amateur arena, either sanctioning or help running national events/leagues/development programs. IMO they have been a total flop in the pro pool world.
Agreed 100%. We both see their role as the same, but for the moment, it is not the role they are choosing to play.

They have some leverage and power because they still control the entry gates to some very high purse major championships in pool, such as the World 8-ball, the World 10-ball, the China Open, the Qatar Open, etc. They also have control of Heyball, a game I don't enjoy, but one that offers huge prize money.

As I said, however, this is just one chapter in the story being written.

It's no secret that I want Matchroom steering professional pool's ship, but there is still some competition for the helm.
 
Agreed 100%. We both see their role as the same, but for the moment, it is not the role they are choosing to play.

They have some leverage and power because they still control the entry gates to some very high purse major championships in pool, such as the World 8-ball, the World 10-ball, the China Open, the Qatar Open, etc. They also have control of Heyball, a game I don't enjoy, but one that offers huge prize money.

As I said, however, this is just one chapter in the story being written.

It's no secret that I want Matchroom steering professional pool's ship, but there is still some competition for the helm.
Some comp. for MR would make the whole deal better. Totally agree.
 
And by the way I don't see any reason to hate Chinese 8-ball. Give it a try playing, it can be a pretty interesting game. I'm sure if more pool players appeared at Heyball WC or Masters, there would have been more love from current nay-sayers. Only drawback the game is so demanding, that even the mighty SVB can not handle it :)

i'm sure he would, if he put his effort into it. that's not the point. the WPA is pushing heyball as THE GAME now, just check their website. which is stupid to begin with, as it's supposed to be about american pool table games. if you think their motive for this is anything other than chinese $$$ you're delusional.

i don't even hate on c8b, it has its place. i like snooker and 3 cushion too. but don't force those games upon pool players.
 
Thanks a bunch Bob. Exactly that.
American pool fanbase obviously has it hard realizing that those investments are going to serve about 20 to 30 players. Others will struggle even more than before WNT.
That sure beats the 3 or 4 players that it was before MR's big push, and even then those 3 or 4 were getting a substantial chunk of their change from MR events.

Jaden
 
Agreed 100%. We both see their role as the same, but for the moment, it is not the role they are choosing to play.

They have some leverage and power because they still control the entry gates to some very high purse major championships in pool, such as the World 8-ball, the World 10-ball, the China Open, the Qatar Open, etc. They also have control of Heyball, a game I don't enjoy, but one that offers huge prize money.

As I said, however, this is just one chapter in the story being written.

It's no secret that I want Matchroom steering professional pool's ship, but there is still some competition for the helm.
Yeah but their poor leadership is taking away from those events. Look at the world 8 ball this year. It was ho hum...

This is NOT a winning proposition for the WPA, nor for pool. The sooner this is over and the WPA is gone, the better.

Jaden
 
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