What does and wala mean?
Which Way Do You Play This Shot?
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You and Zerskies should play a match.
I mean whoever wins the flip runs the set out with 0 mistakes.
Or, there are a lot of people who understand the shot, english, and game better than OP.
In the end it is what you are comfortable with.
Try all 3 ....it's Free.
Playing 8 ball with 15 balls on the table a version of 1 might be available. It doesn't hurt to be familiar with a less than optimal route.
I’ve tried reading your posts over the years and honestly have no idea what you’re saying most of the time. And what’s with these cartoon videos you posted in this thread?I Better not look. I just might be in there.
Try all 3 ....it's Free.
Playing 8 ball with 15 balls on the table a version of 1 might be available. It doesn't hurt to be familiar with a less than optimal route.
That makes 2 of us.
I think 
and I have seen and heard about it. It's not rambling it's "The Weave".Let's see if I can find a point.......or purpose in the cartoon.
Even when I thought I knew the best route for me.....I was wrong.. oh wow that didn't hurt. I feel like an AA graduate.
I would have never known if I hadn't looked.
Trying various paths makes a practice challenge entertaining and occasionally educational.
My first attempt had whitey finding the hole in the side rail.
Looking at the picture had me chose the draw for the reason you have posted. I learned something when I then attempted the other 2.
I have since put in enough reps to confirm that for me, given my methods/skills set, the red line works best for me.
New stronger reading glasses are jacking with me depending how my head is turned looking at a computer screen. However, I would empty out on anybody trying to follow the first two shots as drawn. They are spinning the cue ball and getting equal angles in and out from the cushions. A lot of that spin is going to be applied to the first cushion by the two ball. Talking about pros, I think they would draw the cue ball path considerably differently.
Playing on a strange table in a strange place I'm going with your red line or close to it, very little to go wrong. The nine ball was closer in the path of the cue ball with my head turned like I first looked at the shot. More room to play If I lay my head back. Either way, I'm not going forward with sidespin on this shot. I would consider the draw shot but I would stay with the KISS shot.
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WobblyStroke
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He meant the French 'voila', tho i did enjoy the Americanized 'wala' myself.
Looking at the picture allows me to develop "The Concept of a Plan". Execution at the table is a different story. Being a bar box banger that played tournaments every night, with different equipment and different conditions, made kiss my favorite strategy.
the draw shot is the one with the least amount of risk and the one i do think most would play and i cannot find fault with that choice
i am not a great player but i hit the stun shot perfect the first time i tried
all you have to do is miss the 9 and you are on a line to the 3
all you guys could do it if you saw it on the table
with the draw shot you are coming across the line although probably across the wide part of the position triangle
i am not saying the stun shot is the best alternative and you would be crazy to shoot anything else
but i dont think it should be dissed as much as you guys are dissing it
jmho
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For me it's more of a roll. Playing just enough above center to start whitey rolling. Just a touch.
it works for you and is simple
for me it leaves a thinner cut than i would like if i have other ways to leave an easier(for me) shot
If I am confident in the table, both are good. Probably hitting low right to have more room. What size table?
Also, it is spelled "voila"
I need to just put my 2 cents. I personally am very comfortable with hitting inside on this shot. My choice for this patterns is low outside. Just want to put it out there in case there was false impression that posters who chose the outside route were somehow not comfortable with inside.
Video of all the options. 3 min with all the fluff fast forwarded out. I have not shot a ball in 3 weeks, and warmed up with 10 short stop shots before filming. I'm a 570 for context. All the attempts are shown, nothing was cut out. On the one rail shots, I pointed my stick if I was attempting the path between the 5/9 or the path outside the 5.
Summary
2 rails forward: 4/4
2 rails backwards: 4/4
1 rail: 5/10, and of those, only 2 of the 5 "successes" led to a good shots on the 3, so I'd actually call it 2/10.
The 2 rail forward or backwards were dirt easy I stopped after each was 4/4, and then worked more on the 1 rail route.
Summary
2 rails forward: 4/4
2 rails backwards: 4/4
1 rail: 5/10, and of those, only 2 of the 5 "successes" led to a good shots on the 3, so I'd actually call it 2/10.
The 2 rail forward or backwards were dirt easy I stopped after each was 4/4, and then worked more on the 1 rail route.
Also here is a picture standing at the table of the 1 rail route, with the stick on the tangent line. You'd need the CB direction to be within 2 ball widths to get field goal position between the 5 and 9. It's really a bad shot. Sorry, not sorry
I think you are getting too caught up in this debate. In pool, personalizing the percentages is part of the game and nobody is suggesting that the shot that you feel is best for you is wrong for you. Anyone who can produce that angle every time, as noted, is playing the cleanest route available from an angle management standpoint, as it crosses no obstructions and ensures a good look at the three.
Still, you are persisting with the argument that everybody's percentages are exactly the same as yours, and that's simply not the case. Some have greater facility with certain paths, strokes and speeds and, even with the top 10 players in the world, those biases exist and will sometimes figure into pattern play decisions.
In this thread, many have shared their choices and the philosophy behind those choices. There's more than one way to go here, and several defensible approaches. That's why this thread has been such a good one.
WobblyStroke
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Thank you for actually shooting em and posting. Also, bonus point made on how spin makes the game easier, not harder like the center-axis cultists like to argue any time side spin gets mentioned on the internet.
I have not viewed the video but noted only 1 one rail path in the posting. My favorite is just go the other side of the 5 between it and the 7 and found a natural that I could duplicate easily. Whitey ends up in a large sweet spot. Well my sweet spot. Wheel house is a favorite from baseball. Ramblin Rose .....why you ramble.....no one knows...Also here is a picture standing at the table of the 1 rail route, with the stick on the tangent line. You'd need the CB direction to be within 2 ball widths to get field goal position between the 5 and 9. It's really a bad shot. Sorry, not sorry
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