Yes. But then other hand they compare 7-ft 8-ball with crappy conditions to good conditions 9-foot 8-ball that Pros play and say 8-ball is breaking contest..
It is even More breaking contest on 7-footers
Who says barbox 8-ball is harder than 9-foot?
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It is even More breaking contest on 7-footers
8b is almost never played on 9fts
Pros play everything on 9s and new equipment
The majority of people that play 8b it’s the reverse
Small tables not perfect conditions and no magic racks
Yes! Totally agree, longer distance is always going to be harder in my opinion. Should hold true with snooker played on a 5 x 10 vs. 6 x 12. I’m sure the snooker guys are going to say the bigger table is much harder.
he kind of does walk the walk though, and i wouldn't bet against him running out more on barboxes than big tables.
maybe do a gofundme and ship a 7 footer to finland so we can see this conundrum solved
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This rings true for me as well.
I might have the worst break in the history of pool. Which really is bad on the big table. I shoot straight enough, my speed control is better than my break.
I run more racks on the vally barbox than the big table. But I’m a big table player.
Makes no sense.
Back to my original thought
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I could see SP being more difficult for very, very good players where lack of touch is a bigger handicap than stroke accuracy. But for me, it's much easier because SP gives you a perfect stroke by default. If you aim the ball correctly, you will make the shot. So you can play much safer positional routes that involve more distance than you would in real life because you don't have to worry about tip inaccuracy ever resulting in a miss.
I saw Cory run a clean 10 pack in Deluth playing Thorp in 2017ish. Was on a diamo in the pool room, newish cloth, not pristine. Ofc that’s Cory , it’s what he does.
To add to this, my own personal experience...
I won an amateur state 8-ball championship on perfect cloth and cushion conditions, but relatively tight pocket (4 1/2", when that really wasnt so common). The runout game felt relatively easy, and I felt like a pro (not that I was shooting like a pro, but it felt like I had the cueball on a string).
Compare to trying to play on terrible bar box conditions, I feel like I have never played a game in my life and can't get anything right. I normally don't wish such things on anyone, but I wish everyone who has never played on bad bar tables gets that lovely chance to try it out.
Shit, English confounds me, i have no idea what any of you are talking aboutI'm at the other end of the spectrum from all you good players, being just a poor to mediocre league hack. I've played 98-99% of my games on 9' tables, mostly fairly tight tables (Diamonds and Olhausens that have similarly small pockets). The few times I get to play on a 7' table, it throws me off. And I'm one to like the congested table game, as I'm far from a run-out player. I enjoy the chess match types of games, and rarely complain when we get a messy table after the break.
So it confounds me. This game always confounds me
Poolmanis, I give you a lot of credit for trying bar table eight ball. Speaking as a fan, I don't much enjoy watching eight ball on any table, but eight ball is clearly a significant discipline in our sport.
On a barbox, it's a different game, but it is easier in at least this respect: a player with less than perfect stroke fundamentals can still manage to miss just a ball or two an hour, whereas the nine-footer will always expose that weakness.
Bar box eight ball at an elite level consists of players that pretty much never miss, so other skills like a) the handling of clusters, b) defense and, of course, c) the break, will decide many matches.
Finally, bar box eight ball is typically played on worn cloth, with balls and rails of less quality than one might expect on a nine footer.
Of course I have watched his videos a bit. Having said, I love to play the game not watch the game. Same goes for me with golf.
Wether he can play or not isn't the question at hand. Playing by yourself against the ghost imo doesn't mean much. There is no money at stake, there is not a player sitting in the chair of equal or higher skill level waiting for a mistake to give him a beating.
Sure I get it he is a big fish in a little pond perhaps in need of an ocean.
Boasting about one's skill in beating a simulation is not the way to go imo & is in poor taste.
I know a damn good player (AAA - 680 Fargo) in my area that always says "I'm a real good player" when a stranger comes to town. Not once has he stepped up to play that stranger.
Damn hot in Vegas during the summer as well, but players flock there for VNEA Internationals, APA World Pool Championships etc. If anyone is going to a tournament venue for the weather, imo they are there for very much the wrong reasons.Better than Wyoming in the middle of January
It's very warm or nice & cool inside take your pick.
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Skogstokig I am going to be critical of you for second - sorry. You said it yourself he kind of does walk the walk.
Poolmanis is a damn good player that is of no doubt & not being questioned. He boasted about beating a f'ng simulation for Christ's sake.
I want to see his game speak for itself against players of his own skill level or better.
See post 52
Don't bring the 7 footer to the man......
Jimmy Moore had a guy run 21 racks of 8- ball on him on a valley 7-foot in Pontiac MI for $2 a game…broke dry on the 22th break….
…..Jimmy paid him another $2 and walked out laughing.
Bobby Legg ran a 20 pack for a lot more money at his bar.
…..you don’t hear stories like this on 9-footers…..unless practising.
But size seemed to a factor when I had breakfast three days at a diner with a 3-6…..gave myself three tries every day to break and run……
……never got to the fifth ball in 9 tries.
…..Jimmy paid him another $2 and walked out laughing.
Bobby Legg ran a 20 pack for a lot more money at his bar.
…..you don’t hear stories like this on 9-footers…..unless practising.
But size seemed to a factor when I had breakfast three days at a diner with a 3-6…..gave myself three tries every day to break and run……
……never got to the fifth ball in 9 tries.
9b right?
All 8-ball.
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Are you talking to Poolmanis? because he probably could... lol
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Well said.
Past a certain ability level the size of the table makes very little difference.
As for what's harder - this is very subjective and as such I don't think there is an answer. It comes down to how you see each game. 9 ball forces you to see a smaller number of patterns where as 8 ball layouts are a different minefield. A bit like when I see pool players play snooker - they have all the ability in the world in most instance but they play snooker like a pool player which ultimately is their downfall. Same works in reverse too.
That's enough talk about this nonsense for now. Where did I puty golf clubs?
As for what's harder - this is very subjective and as such I don't think there is an answer. It comes down to how you see each game. 9 ball forces you to see a smaller number of patterns where as 8 ball layouts are a different minefield. A bit like when I see pool players play snooker - they have all the ability in the world in most instance but they play snooker like a pool player which ultimately is their downfall. Same works in reverse too.
That's enough talk about this nonsense for now. Where did I puty golf clubs?