UK “women’s” final
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I listened to much of Stephanie Turner's interview. A well spoken young lady. This reminds me that one of the lady pool pro's was a former fencer. I always wondered if any of the skillset transferred over.
The fencing association said they were providing a safe space for the men to compete!
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You're still obviously assuming that the world in which we live hasn't been molded by the men AND the women that live in it. If only we could fix society, then magically women would play pool in equal numbers to men. This seems to be your point of view. I think it's almost exactly the opposite. Women don't find pool as interesting as men do because -- wait for it -- they are women! When you boil it all down, it's a bizarrely trivial pursuit to bang balls into each other for hours on end. To be great, you have to have a personality that is extremely single minded, bordering on autisticly obsessive. Men are much more hardwired for such mundane tasks. They have this luxury as they haven't been hardwired over hundreds of thousands of years to constantly be weary of men and even focused on the protection of their young. I imagine that the act of spreading out on a pool table in front of a room full of people illicits more anxiety out of women than men. There's just only so much we can do to make the game comfortable for women to play it.
Men and women are different.
These differences should be celebrated not discounted.
Women's places should be protected.
Women's accomplishments need not be compared to men.
Flakeandrun
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Biologically they find it less interesting? I am not sure that's how it works. Societally fabricated gender norms and values define what it is to be a man or a woman. What they should do, think, feel and ultimately what they personally feel is achievable. Biological Sex has nothing to do with desire to play a game.
You dragged me back in buddy
Absolutely agree with you
In pool, they could be in the future if a context of equal opportunities can be achieved. In the current context, you are right.
Anyway, I'll leave you all to it now.
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For someone that comes across as intelligently as you do -- I seriously can't believe you wrote this. I kind of thought the gender theorist types were dying out or at least sneaking back into the hedges, Homer Simpson style, and coming back out while pretending to have never espoused such things.
Do you also think women would fish in the same numbers as men if we bought them all a rod and reel and funded a billion dollar ad campaign?
We're different.
Not without re-evolution. The differences have evolved with a stiff dose of artificial (literally) selection.
Flakeandrun
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Don't actually need any of that where I am from, as there's many females who like to fish as a hobby already, and probably a higher percentage working in the industry than most other places, but a healthy dose of advertising would likely see as many, as those who needed and organized the drive of the imposed concept, desired. I feel like the question that would adequately supplement what you put forward would be - does the world/region/those who control the relative market, feel that it is economically beneficial to encourage more? If the answer returns a 'yes', then you would promptly be led down the path of normalization of that concept.
You get points for making me laugh. Top referencing/word play.For someone that comes across as intelligently as you do -- I seriously can't believe you wrote this. I kind of thought the gender theorist types were dying out or at least sneaking back into the hedges, Homer Simpson style, and coming back out while pretending to have never espoused such things.
...and stop it! I nearly clock off work, and I am trying to finish early so I can go and play that game we like haha
if that were the case there wouldn't have been any world champions or olympic medalists that were women, but there have been. only there have been way more men winners. it's definitely not a sport characterized by machismo in most western countries, it's very female dominated in general.
physique, maybe a bit, but the main thing is of course the physique of the horse.
If we introduce pool to monkeys I am pretty sure the males monkeys would be more interested in it. It had already been done with other sports and activities, and it was clearly showing males monkeys were more interested in constructions and sports. But I really wish we never do that, If I ever see a monkey playing better pool than me, that will break my heart.
For pool, I do think women can do 99% of what men do. But that 1% is huge when we are rising to the top pros.
For pool, I do think women can do 99% of what men do. But that 1% is huge when we are rising to the top pros.
Machismo in the "on the edge" sense. I mentioned car racing but anything they do - gymnastics, figure skating, shotput lol... These ladies are a specially enabled bunch and not typical of the female jock pool. Of course I have no supporting data - manz here would ask lol but my opinion nonetheless.
The case still is the female group is second to the male group. THAT issue I believe is largely mental.
Lasterer word.
This shoulda been here. Found it in another thread. Here it is again.
This shoulda been here. Found it in another thread. Here it is again.
billiards_watch
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It won't end because it just started.Lasterer word.
This shoulda been here. Found it in another thread. Here it is again.
We're awaiting the "investigation" since the organization said they will look into it. Unless there is a resolution this will continue. Or after the lawsuit.
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Long as we don't turn into seed pods I suppose...
Transgender women banned from female pool category
The Ultimate Pool Group (UPG) ban transgender women from female category after landmark UK Supreme Court ruling that the legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex.
www.bbc.com
no mas
May the best man win
billiards_watch
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This is the way.Transgender women banned from female pool category
The Ultimate Pool Group (UPG) ban transgender women from female category after landmark UK Supreme Court ruling that the legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex.
no mas
Not that it matters because these dudes are bum ass players for competing against lower level women. I'm sure the juniors such as Sofia and Savannah would cook them. '
It's just an embarrassment.
I honeslty thought it would just remain the same and and governing bodies would just ignore it to avoid any backlash from that community.
The lunacy has to stop somewhere. I'd also bet that $$$$-loss figured in big time. I heard that a lot of UP league/tourn. types were putting major heat on UP hq. They were gonna lose their ass if they didn't come to their senses.