Are the new Tariffs on Goods from China going to affect prices on Pool cues?

SSDiver2112 said:
Companies like Pechauer make all their parts inhouse.
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Good to know. But I'd be shocked if they don't use some kind of consumable (finish, tooling, etc) that either comes from China or are made with components from China. The unfortunate reality is that it's damn near impossible to buy everything American made. So if these tariffs go through it's going to touch every corner of our economy.
 
billiards_watch said:
Are there any actual American brand production cues actually made in the USA?
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Well, Revos are made near Boston.

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Paul_#_ said:
Well, Revos are made near Boston (take two):

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Great to hear. There was another thread that made the impression Revo was something rebranded.

You see people there are still great stuff here. Look how excited she is and the emphasis on Made in USA. The world wants more products made from us so the idea we can't make them is crazy.

Southwest is more sought after overseas than it is here.

Show a bit love to our very own.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Well Amazon sells a lot of stuff made in China, maybe people will stop buying what they really don't need from Amazon.
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You guys started off with inflation being so out of control we had to vote the right guy in to make things affordable again.

Now you’re at “Stop buying things unless it’s absolutely necessary”.

What’s next? Everyone just needs to eat American bread and US manufactured beef broth? Everything else is luxury for the Chinese?
 
billiards_watch said:
Great to hear. There was another thread that made the impression Revo was something rebranded.

You see people there are still great stuff here. Look how excited she is and the emphasis on Made in USA. The world wants more products made from us so the idea we can't make them is crazy.

Southwest is more sought after overseas than it is here.

Show a bit love to our very own.
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That’s wonderful but if our foreign competitors are forced to raise costs on us significantly this company will likely raise prices as well. Why wouldn’t they?

No one is going to undercut the market. They will simply raise their prices because anything else is just leaving money on the table for no good reason.

Their costs will go up anyway. Tooling, plastic cue wrappers, odds and ends, new computers, phones. It could be anything. Simply being in America does not shield them from the rising costs of every day incidentals you encounter when you run a business.
 
Haven’t we been told countless times our government is raking in tens of billions of dollars from these other countries, especially China, because of the tariffs recently enacted? Well, if that is true, keep in mind that you are paying the tariff,
not the importing nation. Tariffs are paid by the consumer when they purchase the item here in the USA. The country
importing the goods is not charged any fee or tariff for merely bringing the goods or merchandise into the USA. Those
goods enter our borders without paying any tariff which is actually never paid until the consumer buys the item and the tariff then gets added to the price of the item. You, the consumer, are paying the tariff when you buy the goods. The originating country doesn’t pay for the tariff. As consumers, you and I actually pay the actual tariff, not China or the the country of origin.

Label it a tariff but it is basically added sales tax that is supposed to make the price higher and less appealing than equivalent goods made in the USA not subject to the tariff. You pay the tariff when you buy the item. When you are told by our government how much money we take in from tariffs is not admitting the truth. As consumers, we pay for every tariff dollar that is only collected when you buy the item and not before. The country of origin doesn’t pay even a penny of the tariff thus making you pay a much higher price than before the tariff. This is supposed to be a good outcome but the stock market mightily disagrees and you are paying a lot more for goods because of these tariffs.

Pool cues & pool merchandise from accessories to apparel is going to cost more than before when imported into USA.
 
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Bavafongoul said:
Haven’t we been told countless times our government is raking in tens of billions of dollars from these other countries, especially China, because of the tariffs recently enacted? Well, if that is true, keep in mind that you are paying the tariff,
not the importing nation. Tariffs are paid by the consumer when they purchase the item here in the USA. The country
importing the goods is not charged any fee or tariff for merely bringing the goods or merchandise into the USA. Those
goods enter our borders without paying any tariff which is actually never paid until the consumer buys the item and the tariff then gets added to the price of the item. You, the consumer, are paying the tariff when you buy the goods. The originating country doesn’t pay for the tariff. As consumers, you and I actually pay the actual tariff, not China or the the country of origin.

Label it a tariff but it is basically added sales tax that is supposed to make the price higher and less appealing than equivalent goods made in the USA not subject to the tariff. You pay the tariff when you buy the item. When you are told by our government how much money we take in from tariffs is not admitting the truth. As consumers, we pay for every tariff dollar collected when you purchase the item, The country of origin doesn’t pay even a penny thus making you pay a much higher price than before the tariff was enacted. And this is supposed to be good.
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I don’t believe tariffs with replace income tax. However the wealthy would benefit greatly from that proposal.

Since we, the people, feed the market we will be the ones covering all the costs.

It’ll be sold as a pay raise when in reality it’ll be a net loss for most of us.
 
I wonder about JB Cases since those all come from China. What's going to happen to the price and availability of both his cases and the interiors. Having had a lot of nice cases over the years I'll pretty much only use something with a JB interior at this point, like my wonderful leather case from Al King or my JB Ultimate Rugged. Hope the supply of those don't dry up.

Seyberts has some in stock if anybody needs to snag one
 
slide13 said:
I wonder about JB Cases since those all come from China. What's going to happen to the price and availability of both his cases and the interiors. Having had a lot of nice cases over the years I'll pretty much only use something with a JB interior at this point, like my wonderful leather case from Al King or my JB Ultimate Rugged. Hope the supply of those don't dry up.

Seyberts has some in stock if anybody needs to snag one
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Need to see if JB has any employment apps in English. Just sayin' . . .
 
If a cue is made in the USA the added cost of foreign components and shop supplies won't be fifty dollars. The cost of pool cues is mostly time and artistry.

American manufacturers may increase prices just based on market pricing. Debatable if it is fair or not, but a builder that is charging 150% of what a chinese cue costs may well keep on charging 150% of what a chinese cue costs. Makes sense in a way, the price is one indication of quality. Some always think a higher price means higher quality.

A local story: My storage company built a new multimillion dollar building next to my storage unit about a year ago. Twice they have increased the cost of my rent due to the increased cost of "goods". First damned time I have heard of a new building being called goods. Do they really think us renters are stupid? Fixing to vote with my wallet and my feet! Not that they will care but once they don't have any leverage I will tell them that it wasn't the cost increases as much as their bullshit rationale that caused me to leave. American cue builders may claim cost increases too, but real cost increases will be extremely minor.

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A lot of you aren’t going to want to hear this, but the Chinese are better than Americans at making many things. It is because they have the practice and live in a competitive environment which pushes manufacturing technology. We aren’t as good as them anymore.

Their high quality stuff is very high quality and their low quality stuff is very low quality. Americans get stuck too much on seeing all of the low quality stuff, which is indeed quite a problem. It’s called market dumping and not even the EU wants to deal with it.

Also, we should be saying United Statesians or North Americans. It bothers me that we claim the word America for two entire continents.
 
I am an advocate of buying American when it comes to cues because we have highly sought after cues that are well known overseas like McWorter for example. Not many people know of who he is but his cues are high in demand there. No need to go elsewhere when the best are right in our own backyard.

Basically what I'm trying to say is tariffs will double the price of a shit cue. So why not buy domestically, pay a bit more for quality.

Foreign markets understand this and love our custom cues but most Americans frown on them.

Tariffs, no matter how you feel about them, are going to open people's eyes about buying quality here. You don't want to pay double for bad quality.
 
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