New WPA Official Rules of Pool … Learn About All the Changes

[dr_dave]

FYI, I just posted a video that discusses and demonstrates all changes that have recently been made to the World Pool Association (WPA) official rules of pool. Check it out:

Contents:
0:00 – Intro
0:38 - Use of Equipment
2:46 - Balls Settling
4:13 - 8-Ball Open Table
5:08 - Foul Uncertainty
---- 5:18 - wrong-ball-first
---- 7:05 - no rail contact
8:17 - Unintentional Scoop
9:21 - All-Ball Fouls
11:06 - 9-Ball Break
13:14 - 10-Ball Safety
14:36 - New Game Rules
15:05 - More Info

As always, I look forward to your feedback, comments, questions, complaints, and requests.

Enjoy!

 

[skor]

8-Ball needs more changes...

 

[dr_dave]

8-Ball needs more changes...

Please suggest specific requests. Bob Jewett and I are both on the WPA Rules Committee, so we can officially propose changes.

 

[bbb]

very useful video
thanks dr dave
p.s. i think you should consider that hair style in the all ball rules section as your permanent style .....

 

[Badpenguin]

The 5 second ball settling rule - will that not be an issue with matches that are under a shot clock?

 

[Bob Jewett]

The 5 second ball settling rule - will that not be an issue with matches that are under a shot clock?

The shot is not over until the five seconds have passed, so the clock is suspended.

 

[Fore Rail]

Imho there is going to be a bit of pushback in regards to the open table 8 ball rule.

 

[dr_dave]

very useful video

Thanks.

thanks dr dave

You're welcome.

p.s. i think you should consider that hair style in the all ball rules section as your permanent style .....

I'll be sure to get some bell-bottom pants and platform shoes at out local thrift store before I use the "Hippy Dave" wig in another video. That will add even more to the look.

 

[dr_dave]

Imho there is going to be a bit of pushback in regards to the open table 8 ball rule.

This situation would almost never happen (I've certainly never seen anything even close to it), but why do your think there would be pushback?

 

[Fore Rail]

This situation would almost never happen (I've certainly never seen anything even close to it), but why do your think there would be pushback?

I would agree that your example has a very low probability of happening.

I am thinking there will be many arguing that the solids were never legally chosen & therefore the 8 ball cannot be shot to win the game. In that situation just about everyone would say the incoming player has to shoot the stripes because of the above.

 

[dr_dave]

I would agree that your example has a very low probability of happening.

I am thinking there will be many arguing that the solids were never legally chosen & therefore the 8 ball cannot be shot to win the game. In that situation just about everyone would say the incoming player has to shoot the stripes because of the above.

If "solids were never legally chosen," then they are still available (even with only the 8 remaining).

 

[iusedtoberich]

I like the updates mentioned. The unintentional scoop shot as a foul was a bad idea, imo. For 50 years it was not a foul, then all of a sudden last year some Eurotour refs started calling it a foul to everyone's surprise. Good to fix that.

I'm not so keen on all ball fouls. I doubt any local events will ever go by it, just like 50 years later they don't go by the center of the ball.

I have not checked the written rules yet (only watched the video), but since Dave and Bob are on the committee, one vocabulary term that always bothered me is "base of the ball". If it's still there, it should be changed to "center of the ball", imo. The reason is, I've seen some players argue with me that the approx 1/4" wide "patch" that is touching the cloth counts, rather than the exact center only.

 

[iusedtoberich]

I would agree that your example has a very low probability of happening.

I am thinking there will be many arguing that the solids were never legally chosen & therefore the 8 ball cannot be shot to win the game. In that situation just about everyone would say the incoming player has to shoot the stripes because of the above.

I disagree. Extending the unlikely scenario further, what if all 14 solids and stripes were made illegally, and only the 8 was left. Shouldn't the player at the table with the first "legal" shot win?

 

[Fore Rail]

If "solids were never legally chosen," then they are still available (even with only the 8 remaining).

Here's what you are going to hear.

How can they still be available if none are on the table?

 

[Fore Rail]

I disagree. Extending the unlikely scenario further, what if all 14 solids and stripes were made illegally, and only the 8 was left. Shouldn't the player at the table with the first "legal" shot win?

Okay let's drift further into fantasy land.

Player A breaks and makes 6 solids. While making the 7th player A also makes the 8 ball.

What's the score?

 

[dr_dave]

Okay let's drift further into fantasy land.

Player A breaks and makes 6 solids. While making the 7th player A also makes the 8 ball.

What's the score?

Player A loses. Pocketing the 8 early is loss of game. FYI, all the detailed rules can be found via the links here:

Pool Rules - Dr. Dave Pool Info

Pool and billiards rules sets and resources for laerning and knowing how to play properly.

drdavepoolinfo.com

 

[garczar]

Great stuff as usual. Just for shits-n-giggle you outta do a tounge in cheek vid on 'beer bar' rules, their implementation and possible fisticuffs arising from such use.

 

[Badpenguin]

The shot is not over until the five seconds have passed, so the clock is suspended.

Which will take away 5 seconds from every shot... On a 30 second shot clock, that is not trivial. I can see it happening in 1P often.

 

[Fore Rail]

Player A loses. Pocketing the 8 early is loss of game. FYI, all the detailed rules can be found via the links here:

Pool Rules - Dr. Dave Pool Info

Pool and billiards rules sets and resources for laerning and knowing how to play properly.

drdavepoolinfo.com

Of course Player A loses

What the score according to WPA 10-0 or 10-7?

I can see it now, some folks are going to take the interpretation further and say they should get points for all those solids made.

Here's what I am getting at in a nutshelll.

Now we have a new rules interpretation via WPA. Will the VNEA & BCAPL follow suit or are they the same way now?

Too many cooks in the kitchen leading to absolutley no consistency and further arguments.

 

[skogstokig]

the rulings against sanjin / fortunski had nothing to do with scoop jump shots being illegal, but rather the ferrule touching the cb. technically ref was correct, but it's a rare example of what's technically a foul not being seen as a foul in the pool culture. a good rule clarification imo