Obviously, your point of view makes perfect sense for any player with any aspirations competitively, but so many of those who play at the Derby are there because they consider it a thrill to get beaten up by a top player.
DCC one pocket speed-up rule
- Thread starter Bob Jewett
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Agree with the spirit of this post. FYI, I have suggested before that a rule could be added that any race featuring two players of less than 600 Fargo be a race to 2. Still, I do not favor cutting off entry based on Fargo. To me, that robs the Derby of its identify every bit as much as the new one pocket rules rob one pocket of its identity.
Unless there is a major change, I don't see DCC getting rid of it's scheduling issues to the point where you can drop the final Sunday and get to bed by 10PM on Saturday after the 9 ball finals.
I think there are better ways to fix the one pocket match lengths than these new rules, but it will be interesting to see how they work.
As for whether it will still be one pocket ... maybe start thinking of one pocket as two different games: private-match one pocket and tournament one pocket.
I think there are better ways to fix the one pocket match lengths than these new rules, but it will be interesting to see how they work.
As for whether it will still be one pocket ... maybe start thinking of one pocket as two different games: private-match one pocket and tournament one pocket.
I forgot.... didn't last year go fairly smoothly, with the extra day added?
Or was it still a clusterF?
Or was it still a clusterF?
i don't remember at what time fedor played josh in the 9b "semifinal" but he was tired enough to concede after 4-5 racks
Much better, but the 9ball still went to 3 AM on Saturday.
Actually, Fedor unscrewed 5-1 behind in the race to nine, allowing the diehard railbirds like me to go to bed.
I think he was conserving energy, having to play the banks final Sunday at 12:00 and the one-pocket final immediately after that. He also surely recognized that Josh was in dead stroke, having just dismissed SVB 9-0 with a TPA 1.000 performance in the quarterfinal and now way ahead of Fedor.
In retrospect, Fedor's decision appears to have been a wise one, as he won the banks, the one pocket and the Master of the Table on Sunday, walking away with some serious cash.
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When the fields were in the low 300's things seemed fairly smooth. That's the max this venue can support, imo. Diamond could probably solve all the scheduling issues by cutting off the online entries at 300. If any people show up in-person without online entry, ok to let them play. There will probably only be a handful of those anyway.
Besides an entry cap of about 300 (which I've been writing here at least 5 years), there should also be an absolute cap on a match length, for all 3 disciplines. 9 ball should also probably go back to race to 7, imo.
Frankly, I don't care about the "integrity of the game". The MOST important job of a TD, after not donkying the entry fees at the craps table, is to make sure the tournament is on time. It trumps everything else, imo. Whatever drastic measure the TD needs to take to accomplish this, so be it.
Besides an entry cap of about 300 (which I've been writing here at least 5 years), there should also be an absolute cap on a match length, for all 3 disciplines. 9 ball should also probably go back to race to 7, imo.
Frankly, I don't care about the "integrity of the game". The MOST important job of a TD, after not donkying the entry fees at the craps table, is to make sure the tournament is on time. It trumps everything else, imo. Whatever drastic measure the TD needs to take to accomplish this, so be it.
Right; he conceded at about 2:45 am with the score 3-1 and Filler about to run out (2 balls left) in Game 5.
Just a reminder to all that one of the big reasons the 9ball ran so late last year on Saturday at the Derby was that the referees and shot clock operators had all gone to bed several hours before play concluded. For this reason, a couple of really slow matches played on the stream table without a shot clock caused a significant delay in the schedule.
I hope that mistake will not be repeated this year.
I hope that mistake will not be repeated this year.
They pretty much did these rules last year -- they've been monkeying with them the last two.
Lou Figueroa
just sayin'
This is an interesting point. I read Bob's post to suggest that he is skeptical these rules will be successful in speeding progress in the tournament. If so, I agree.
There is a significant non-zero probability that the DCC could implement these cartoon rules and the tournament could STILL run long.
How does the DCC intend to enforce these new rule on table 41? If they do actually enforce them through some roving patrols of fast-one-pocket storm troopers that might be the only thing that could make things worse than what is proposed.
Of course, they could choose to enforce these rules in the same way they enforce the dress code...not at all.
kollegedate
I thought they were getting scoring from DigitalPool, so in theory it is possible to track the progress of all tables from TD Central.
InsertCleverNameHere
Well-known member
Just happy to see some people talking about the REAL issue about tournament pacing.... The 9 ball event.
what would be the drawbacks of a chess clock? i wonder why they didn't consider it versus this mutant grady rule and heyball style match clock
For the last couple of years they have had roving storm troopers -- I think last year there were a few more of them.
One wrinkle I was unaware of and personally learned last year is: if your opponent is not table side at the announced starting time of your match you are to report that to the desk so they can immediately put said opponent on the clock. Previously, I thought you had to wait awhile before approaching the desk so that's what I did, waiting about 20 minutes. Then, I slogged way over to the desk and informed them I had no opponent AND THEN they put him on the clock.
Lou Figueroa
he never showed
lol, stop it, Bob, you're killing me.
Lou Figueroa
woo wee
who knew Bob
could be so funny
From my experience, gathered over mucho, mucho DCCs, the answer would be... (wait for it): None.
In a way it makes so much sense it's nuts they haven’t implemented it. Instead they have goofed up the rules. I'm sure there'd be a learning curve but it ain't rocket science to hit the clock.
Lou Figueroa
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