Matchroom, WNT, Mosconi Cup, and American Pro Pool

JAM

I am the storm
Silver Member
A very interesting "Window’s Open" podcast dropped yesterday (November 7, 2025). There was a full conversation about Matchroom, the Mosconi Cup selection process, the debate over the fifth Team USA player, and more broadly, the feeling that Matchroom’s relationship with the American pool press and social media sphere has cooled—or at least changed.

For the first time since the Joshua Filler et al. WPA vs. WNT scheduling conflict, the sentiment shifted noticeably. Last year, many voices were critical of the players who chose to prioritize Predator or WPA events over Matchroom ones. In yesterday's podcast, though, the tone was different. There was a sense of understanding that pros are doing what’s best for their careers, longevity, and personal goals.

And that raises the question: Has Matchroom simply outgrown the American market as its center of gravity? WNT’s machine is global now. Their momentum, promotion, and talent pool is increasingly European and Asian. That’s where the new fans are, the new juniors, and the deepest pro pipelines. It’s possible that the U.S. sector of the sport just doesn’t register the same strategic importance anymore. Look at the existing lot of American pro players today. Slim pickings for the fifth Team USA member compared to Asia and Europe. I can count on one hand, sad to say, what American pro could be the fifth member of 2025 Team USA.

There’s also frustration from some American media voices and American pool fans. Not hostility, just fatigue. Communication feels inconsistent. Announcements feel last-minute. There’s a sense that input from U.S. outlets is neither sought nor valued. Personally, I’ve reached the point where I look at Matchroom the same way I look at government agencies. They’re going to do what they’re going to do. And the public reaction, good or bad, doesn’t shift their course much. Pool people, let’s be honest, can be fickle anyway.

Does Matchroom have room to improve? Absolutely. Transparency would go a long way. Respecting the U.S. media ecosystem would help. But at the end of the day, much like the purple balls and Shark-grey cloth, Matchroom is going to move according to its own vision, not community consensus.

The ball is, and likely will remain, in their court.

 
Last edited:
So a MR TX event possibility is no longer?
I’m not sure. Matchroom’s communication flow just seems to ebb and flow over time. With today being the day they’re announcing the 5th Team USA player, it still feels strange that it’s been held this long.
 
I’m not sure. Matchroom’s communication flow just seems to ebb and flow over time. With today being the day they’re announcing the 5th Team USA player, it still feels strange that it’s been held this long.
It seems they like to make everyone sit on the edge of their seats. Also about control.
 
When you have people (American and European) buying out the tickets before they even know the team, you know you cornered the market so why care?

The Filippinos are not the same, you bring a shit show for the Reyes Cup they are not going to pay hard earned money to watch crap.

Oscar should definitely make the team, but he gave up trying for points because he knows if he doesn't get enough points he will not be picked, ala last year. Favoritism is the word of the day. However, great to see SVB and Filler on the teams so some matches might be worth watching.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JAM
And that raises the question: Has Matchroom simply outgrown the American market as its center of gravity? WNT’s machine is global now. Their momentum, promotion, and talent pool is increasingly European and Asian. That’s where the new fans are, the new juniors, and the deepest pro pipelines. It’s possible that the U.S. sector of the sport just doesn’t register the same strategic importance anymore.
Great post and you have raised a great question. Personally, I'm not sure that the American market was ever Matchroom's center of gravity. That said, I really don't feel that Matchroom has ever stopped making a big effort to develop and court the American pool market.

Emily Frazer had made it clear that she wanted to add a WNT major in America, and this year she stepped up to the plate, adding the Florida Open, a new WNT major that was superb. WNT ranking points have been made available all over the United States through Matchroom's teaming up with so many events (Derby City, Super Billiards Expo, McDermott Classic, Seattle Open, Battle of the Bull, International 9ball, the River City Open, et al). The developing American pro can now participate frequently in the WNT system without ever leaving America, and I see this as a huge positive that allows aspiring pros to manage their expenses as they develop.

Let's also not overlook that Matchroom helps to support junior pool in America, having had a junior event at both the 2025 Florida Open and the 2025 US Open 9ball.

No doubt, the Asian market has had more growth than America's and merits increasing attention because of it, but I feel Matchroom continues to spend in America and continues to try to grow both its platform and pro pool in America.

Nobody suggests that Matchroom has gotten everything right, but they have built something special and American pros and fans have as much access to it as anybody else. America's failure to produce its share of world class players this decade is on America, not on Matchroom, which continues to offer a solid infrastructure for both established and emerging players.

WNT's reconciliation with WPA and the inclusion of both Filler and SVB at the Mosconi look like awfully good signs to me, as each of the two legends has played in most of the WNT majors ever contested. Matchroom is right to want its players to be loyal to the WNT brand but has seemingly come to recognize that the suddenly enormous size of the worldwide pool tournament offering means that players will have difficult choices in the foreseeable future and that not every participation choice will be to Matchroom's liking.

Matchroom has had to navigate some rough waters in 2025, but I am one American pool fan that's very happy with how things continue to evolve at Matchroom.
 
Last edited:
Great post and you have raised a great question. Personally, I'm not sure that the American market was ever Matchroom's center of gravity. That said, I really don't feel that Matchroom has ever stopped making a big effort to develop and court the American pool market.

Emily Frazer had made it clear that she wanted to add a WNT major in America, and this year she stepped up to the plate, adding the Florida Open, a new WNT major that was superb. WNT ranking points have been made available all over the United States through Matchroom's teaming up with so many events (Derby City, Super Billiards Expo, McDermott Classic, Seattle Open, Battle of the Bull, International 9ball, the River City Open, et al). The developing American pro can now participate frequently in the WNT system without ever leaving America, and I see this as a huge positive that allows aspiring pros to manage their expenses as they develop.

Let's also not overlook that Matchroom helps to support junior pool in America, having had a junior event at both the 2025 Florida Open and the 2025 US Open 9ball.

No doubt, the Asian market has had more growth than America's and merits increasing attention because of it, but I feel Matchroom continues to spend in America and continues to try to grow both its platform and pro pool in America.

Nobody suggests that Matchroom has gotten everything right, but they have built something special and American pros and fans have as much access to it as anybody else. America's failure to produce its share of world class players this decade is on America, not on Matchroom, which continues to offer a solid infrastructure for both established and emerging players.

WNT's reconciliation with WNT and the inclusion of both Filler and SVB at the Mosconi look like awfully good signs to me, as each of the two legends has played in most of the WNT majors ever contested. Matchroom is right to want its players to be loyal to the WNT brand but has seemingly come to recognize that the suddenly enormous size of the worldwide pool tournament offering means that players will have difficult choices in the foreseeable future and that not every participation choice will be to Matchroom's liking.

Matchroom has had to navigate some rough waters in 2025, but I am one American pool fan that's very happy with how things continue to evolve at Matchroom.
Great post here. Based on the RABID response MR events get in Vietnam/Philippines i would think they'd be hyper-focused on expanding that market. Getting folks off the barbox and expanding US 9ft talent is still a tough deal.
 
And the last member of Team USA is Billy Thorpe.

I just don't understand why the wait.

579202215_1260512779441655_451458790928827390_n.jpg
 
American pool players used to be superstars, even for pro level players from Europe and Asia.
This is not the case anymore, so it makes no sense to focus that much on America.
Pool fans around the world would prefer to pay and watch non American players. Only SVB and Gorst bring any interest and their time will end soon as well with no new generation at the highest levels.
It is what it is and it'll stay that way until America will start to accept pool as a sport.
 
It is what it is and it'll stay that way until America will start to accept pool as a sport.
An interesting comment that is reminiscent of what Barry Hearn said in his 2013 BCA Hall of Fame acceptance speech. He related how little respect for pool he encountered when he spoke with programming executives at ESPN.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JAM
Because the reason they lost last year was primarily down to Shane and Fedor.

They were dreadful.
maybe 1 or both of them need to take a break from the MC for a year. I know they are great players, but not at the MC for some reason- SVB in particular almost always seems to under-perform
 
An interesting comment that is reminiscent of what Barry Hearn said in his 2013 BCA Hall of Fame acceptance speech. He related how little respect for pool he encountered when he spoke with programming executives at ESPN.
Well just think about it, if we look at the Olympics, the USA usually have the largest delegation, they win more medals and gold medals than most other countries (used to be a tight race with the USSR back in those days but that's gone), and the only reason for that is that the USA has a lot of money invested in sports and there are a lot of resources and facilities available for athletes to become the best in the world.
The USA has the right attitude towards sports.
Pool is not considered a sport, it's still considered a gamblers game and something to do in a bar while getting drunk... and the biggest problem is that those that practice pool in the USA for the most parts sees it the same way... We had tons of discussions about it here in the forum to see it as well.
It has to change from within the community and not wait for someone to come along to miraculously fix it for the USA.
Matchroom is not that knight in shining armour, they are a business but with the right collaboration they could be a tool for getting pool to where it needs to be.
 
Last edited:
Yes, it does have to come from within to "fix" the American pro pool entity. It still begs the question, however. Is the Mosconi Cup captain supposed to be a leader or a coach? What is the job description of a Mosconi Cup captain?
 
Back
Top