Just started watching the 10 ball on ultimate pool.

UP ruins the game.
Winning at pool means pocketing balls not playing the clock. This a disaster.
And handicapping rotation games by games ahead will never work, 99.9% of the time, the stronger players will win.
Adding sin upon sin, the bar box is a joke.

The 8ball shootout semi final and final had 18 break and run out, don’t tell me that bar box 8ball is harder than 9ft.
Let’s see these guys beat Filler on a 9ft.

It’s fun just as much as grabbing a house cue in a bar while having a few drinks and knocking some balls but when you want to play seriously, you’ll go to a pool hall and play on a 9ft.
This is the end of pool as we know it.
 
UP ruins the game.
Winning at pool means pocketing balls not playing the clock. This a disaster.
And handicapping rotation games by games ahead will never work, 99.9% of the time, the stronger players will win.
Adding sin upon sin, the bar box is a joke.

The 8ball shootout semi final and final had 18 break and run out, don’t tell me that bar box 8ball is harder than 9ft.
Let’s see these guys beat Filler on a 9ft.

It’s fun just as much as grabbing a house cue in a bar while having a few drinks and knocking some balls but when you want to play seriously, you’ll go to a pool hall and play on a 9ft.
This is the end of pool as we know it.

but if you thought this was a way to weed out the best player in the world you've totally misunderstood. they're promoting a league for amateurs, and the rest is a fun way for semipros, pros and ex-pros to duke it out. yes bergman and players of his level will play no miss pool on these tables, but if you look at the 750 and below most of the time they won't, especially with a short shot clock. and that can be quite intriguing.

that said, i didn't and won't watch 10-ball or 9-ball on a barbox, which i guess is the topic..
 
UP ruins the game.
Winning at pool means pocketing balls not playing the clock. This a disaster.
And handicapping rotation games by games ahead will never work, 99.9% of the time, the stronger players will win.
Adding sin upon sin, the bar box is a joke.

The 8ball shootout semi final and final had 18 break and run out, don’t tell me that bar box 8ball is harder than 9ft.
Let’s see these guys beat Filler on a 9ft.

It’s fun just as much as grabbing a house cue in a bar while having a few drinks and knocking some balls but when you want to play seriously, you’ll go to a pool hall and play on a 9ft.
This is the end of pool as we know it.
Actually this has been pool as we know it for many years. There's probably 10 players playing on small bar tables around the country for every own that plays in a pool room.

My problem was the rules they are playing by. You take a player who can hardly play, give them a big spot, Set a time limit, and they're only motive is the stall the game till they can run out the clock with the lead they started with To win. That is utterly ridiculous.

I went back and watched some of it fast forwarding and saw one where the player actually just stood there with his back turned watching the clock till it was time to shoot not even attempting to pocket a ball.
 
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My problem was the rules they are playing by. You take a player who can hardly play, give them a big spot, Set a time limit, and they're only motive is the stall the game till they can run out the clock with the lead they started with To win. That is utterly ridiculous.

I went back and watched some of it fast forwarding and saw one where the player actually just stood there with his back turned watching the clock till it was time to shoot not even attempting to pocket a ball.
That’s what I’m talking about.

The table size is a discussion of its own.
 
... I went back and watched some of it fast forwarding and saw one where the player actually just stood there with his back turned watching the clock till it was time to shoot not even attempting to pocket a ball.
If the clock system does not encourage all players to play somewhat faster at all times, it is broken. That should be obvious.

An interesting example of another broken clock rule ... About 40 years ago, there were some live 3-cushion matches on TV in Mexico. To fit in a time slot, the matches had a hard time limit (30 min?). The many-times US champion, Allen Gilbert, was in a close match with about a minute left on the clock. He led by a point but had no good shot. He waited until his shot time was nearly out and then shot straight at a ball with extreme side spin but no follow or draw. The cue ball sat there in place spinning, and spinning, and spinning while the match clock expired.
 
If the clock system does not encourage all players to play somewhat faster at all times, it is broken. That should be obvious.

An interesting example of another broken clock rule ... About 40 years ago, there were some live 3-cushion matches on TV in Mexico. To fit in a time slot, the matches had a hard time limit (30 min?). The many-times US champion, Allen Gilbert, was in a close match with about a minute left on the clock. He led by a point but had no good shot. He waited until his shot time was nearly out and then shot straight at a ball with extreme side spin but no follow or draw. The cue ball sat there in place spinning, and spinning, and spinning while the match clock expired.
Earlier in the tournament I heard the commentators talking about stalling the clock. And one of them said if you got caught doing it it was a foul. I could see somebody walking around acting like their strategizing letting the clock run that's one thing.

Standing over your shot just staring at the clock waiting for it to run down sounds like unsportsman like conduct. I don't know if there is a rule or not but one of the commentators said there was.

Also how about the coaching. I know in bar leagues coaching is often allowed but in this case the guy is holding his finger on the rail for the person to hit kicking at a ball. That's different than coaching that's actually being involved in the game and the shot.
 
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You guys that cant accept bar boxes have a problem, even at pool halls that have 9 foot tables the 9 footers sit empty while everyone plays on bar boxes. People who are not shortstops and above just don't want to play on 9 foot tables.
There is a learning curve for 9 foot tables, which is why people choose the easier option.

But once you get used to a 9ft table, the game is so much more enjoyable.

You can't let your stroke out on a 7ft table.
 
Must really piss-off all the big-table die-hards. To see a well run, good paying tour(run by Brits no less) have success has gotta be galling. Does ANYONE think this deal would fly on 9fts?? Hell it wouldn't even get off the ground. Mainstream pool in this country is on the 7ft table and that is not changing anytime soon.
 
There is a learning curve for 9 foot tables, which is why people choose the easier option.

But once you get used to a 9ft table, the game is so much more enjoyable.


You can't let your stroke out on a 7ft table.
not really, its theres just more going on in play on the 7ft with leagues and tournaments

i play on both regularly
both are different and neither are the same in any way

a bb8b bnr is just as enjoyable as moving the cb on a big table for me
its all good
 
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