New 1P Rules For The Derby City Classic
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If, by a miracle, I win the first game against Filler, the final score will be 1-0 three hours later. The only fly in the ointment is that if my game score gets to -4 in the second game, I can't take any more intentionals. Minus 5 is a loss.
It will be interesting to see how it develops. Where's Corey?
It is an effort to improve. Might have to add chess clocks. A clock that would reduce the time per shot as the game progresses might be an option. Fewer balls on the table makes the play more obvious. Players taking twenty minutes to take the only possible shot is ridiculous. Five minutes a shot is more like up to ten because you are studying the table and considering possibilities when it is the other player's turn.
I think fast play to minimize the other player's time to think is a danger with a per shot clock but I don't think milking the clock when it is your turn is reasonable either. Nothing Diamond can do that won't change the game. Shrinking the field or having a minimum qualifying fargo are possibilities too. I prefer time limits.
Hu
I think fast play to minimize the other player's time to think is a danger with a per shot clock but I don't think milking the clock when it is your turn is reasonable either. Nothing Diamond can do that won't change the game. Shrinking the field or having a minimum qualifying fargo are possibilities too. I prefer time limits.
Hu
Can't believe they over-ruled all those elite top 1pocket legends they caballed with and finally just listened to us bangers, lol.
Previously on General Hospital: "Steve McD. at Diamond said: at the end of an inning if more than four balls are in the kitchen ALL of them spot. He said its purely due to time constraints. He's fully aware that some purists are hot but that's how they're gonna do it. They want a more offensive/aggressive game to speed it up. I also asked about a clock and they looked it and came to conclusion that it wouldn't stop the up table play which was their main concern. Said the rule changes at the 2/3 hour point weren't doing enough. Nice guy, fast replies with well explained answers. He said they got together with numerous top 1p legends when doing these changes."
Lou Figueroa
I can't imagine a better way to limit races other than time.
If you're behind in the score no more stalling shoot or lose.
It's the same gambit during games. If you're way behind from not shooting you lose.
Even though there aren't shot clocks, I don't see a TD allowing this to get out of hand before
booting someone. Nothing is perfect, and near the end of the match some stalling may happen.
I guess that would make the player who is behind have to rearrange the furniture some.
booting someone. Nothing is perfect, and near the end of the match some stalling may happen.
I guess that would make the player who is behind have to rearrange the furniture some.
TD discretion is the key here.
You got two guys shooting at their hole in a timely fashion you let it play out. You have two bangers whose idea of 1pocket is to just bunt them all upstairs, or one or both players just stare at the table like they've had a brain aneurism, you call the match at the time limit.
You don't want those guys anywhos. A TD and/or ref/official has to have the experience and cojones to make the call.
Lou Figueroa
You got two guys shooting at their hole in a timely fashion you let it play out. You have two bangers whose idea of 1pocket is to just bunt them all upstairs, or one or both players just stare at the table like they've had a brain aneurism, you call the match at the time limit.
You don't want those guys anywhos. A TD and/or ref/official has to have the experience and cojones to make the call.
Lou Figueroa
Probably more important: The official has to have the backing of management to squish the snails. I doubt that's the case.
I still have hope for chess clocks. In my experience, just having a clock at the table makes the snails move faster. And sometimes they just go away.
I still think they should limit up table balls and penalize anything over with a loss.
Alternatively, first ball over the limit would be rewarded with a win.
Alternatively, first ball over the limit would be rewarded with a win.
Even with all of that, 1-pckt takes a long time to play.
Room owners need to make money by having more players present at tournaments and spectators.
Unless you play this game watching it can be boring for spectators.
Could it be that tournament one pocket and gambler style between two players one pocket diverge to fill
the room owners needs?
There have been a few conversations I have had about this. One form would be like Straight Pool where you
can break make a ball and start running balls, the other that I've heard is to simply allow the games to go on as usual and
to have the players to race to a number of balls under the current rules.
Other deciding factors could come up like-- is this going to be rotating the break etc.
I am registered to play one this month, where Fargo and spots are being employed and I have no Fargo rating and there will be spots used, so there are a lot of things that could be done to bring the game into I guess you would call it, the new age, where Pool Leagues are the
biggest action around. We need to bring folks into the game, because it's the best game there is.
This past weekend in my local room there were 192 players at a 7ft bar table event with 10's of thousands of dollars
on the line. That is a movement getting more attention than the older tours around here ever did.
Pool changes slow, but it does change.
Chess Clocks have gotten better and cheaper since I had a chess club.
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Stalling is considered "unsportsmenship." I believe most of us would play fairly and try their best to do the right thing. Don't tolerate poor behavior. Report it to the referee. I think that the wholesale changes that were in store for this years event were too much too fast and would cause problems. I for one am pleased they're trying to keep the game as close to how we all play at home as possible. Baby steps in rules changes are my preference.
the only way i could see a chess clock is if the ref puts it in after seeing slow play.
other wise it is a distraction and punishment to all the players. unless it is automatic or the ref is using it.
but it can only be a shot clock and not a time bank as that becomes a weapon.
other wise it is a distraction and punishment to all the players. unless it is automatic or the ref is using it.
but it can only be a shot clock and not a time bank as that becomes a weapon.
i agree but funny how you are one of the slowest players around in one pocket. but doesn't stall.
You have your own time. You play on your own time. Your opponent can't use up your time -- he plays on his time.
As for using the clock, it's dead simple. The TD probably needs someone at the table for the first 15 minutes if either player has never used one to remind them to press the paddle at the end of their inning.
And if you really need two minutes to figure out a shot, you can take two minutes -- it's your time.