Perfect Stroke = No Stroke?

Patrick Johnson said:
What if we could just aim our cue like a rifle with the tip at the contact point and instead of stroking it simply pull a trigger to shoot it at any preset CB speed? Would taking the stroke out of the equation mean more accuracy/consistency or less refinement/creativity?

If your only motive is winning, fun or not, is the stroke an advantage or a drawback?

pj
chgo
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Here you go:

 
Any one ever watch Marco Fu? Virtually no movement until he pulls the cue back, for the one time swing / cue action.
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
What if we could just aim our cue like a rifle with the tip at the contact point and instead of stroking it simply pull a trigger to shoot it at any preset CB speed? Would taking the stroke out of the equation mean more accuracy/consistency or less refinement/creativity?

If your only motive is winning, fun or not, is the stroke an advantage or a drawback?

pj
chgo
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Fun question! I think "less creativity" but a perfect mechanical cue would be a superb teaching aid, for example, teaching a new player how to aim.
 
Wu Jiaqing (fka Wu Chia-Ching) stroke has changed a bit after he started playing Chinese 8 ball. It seems more compact and robotic unless he really needs to let his stroke out.

In 2015 at the CBSA Pool International 9-Ball Open:
In 2019 at the China Open:
In 2025 playing Duya Golden Nine:
 
kingwang said:
Wu Jiaqing (fka Wu Chia-Ching) stroke has changed a bit after he started playing Chinese 8 ball. It seems more compact and robotic unless he really needs to let his stroke out.

In 2015 at the CBSA Pool International 9-Ball Open:
In 2019 at the China Open:
In 2025 playing Duya Golden Nine:
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the stroke on the 9 ball from 2025 looked like a full stroke to me
 
bbb said:
I’m not sure I agree with that
You see many top players today taking full back swings close to the bridge hand and doing well with the tight pockets
Chris Meling and fedor Gorst come to mind
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Yeah imop a long back swing to deliver consistently and easily acceleration with a finish to the stroke (ie hand to chest) making a short penetration through cb is def more accurate an consistent and more compact

Than a long backswing with a long loose elbow dropping stroke where the tip penetrates the cb well past 8-10/12” etc.

Even if you change that last paragraph to a short backswing you now have to contend with building up much more acceleration when needed into a shorter distance…creating way more chance for error due to torque required. Then finishing long
Neither once of those two are really compact at all.

No matter how short a back swing or delivery is, if it’s got lateral sway in it “fishtailing”…is not compact imop. Well at least not the compactness that could be beneficial lol
 
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