My Fargorate progression

iusedtoberich said:
I won all 5 games played, winning the ahead set in about 3.5 hrs. The bet was 5 ahead for 4k per man. He was spotting me 9-8 each game. He had 2 other guys in with him, I was solo.

I only had 2 days to prepare. The game came about as I just sold my car and the buyer paid me with paper cash. I messaged him on Wed and said "let's play a big set before I get responsible and deposit the cash into my bank acct". We set the game for Friday, his only day off.

Wed I called an old buddy of mine that's the only person I know who has a 9' Diamond at home. I went to his house, and it was a red label (I thought it was blue before going). It played awesome though. I loved it. Funny, he told me the Diamond installer fell of the truck and broke his arm in front of his house, and had to get another installer. This was around 2010. I played with him a few hours.

The next day I went to another room that had a tight GC, and played my friend and foe Rachel. Neither game was for money, but I needed to get into one pocket stroke. I played her about 5 hrs. Also did a lot of running balls into one pocket drills there, and banking practice. I finished there about 11pm, and drove to the room the match would be played at. I was hiding because I didn't want my opponent to see me play before the match.

I stayed there until about 1am, hitting balls on the actual table, and brushing up on my break. Also figuring out the rack on that table, the spot was worn so it was tricky. I spent time figuring out the corner 5 diamond system on that table incase I had to kick 3 rails from my pocket to his, and also to the long rail to get behind a ball by his hole. Also a lot of banks to get used to it. I was super happy with the table. Best Diamond blue label I ever played on. This room for some reason the Diamonds just play great.

I couldn't sleep well when I got home. When I woke up I was shaking, and worried about the match. I had a lot of support in my corner and some buddies that came to watch. I won every game, but I was nervous and shaking the whole time. I played super tight, and the strategy worked. Even though I was not feeling great mentally, I feel my game play was above average for me. So the nerves didn't affect the pocketing. The scores were roughly from memory 8 to minus 2, 8 to 3, 8-5, 8-4, and the last game 8-2.

The last game he scratched when I had 6 and he had 1. All the balls were in play and open to his hole. I had BIH and a close shot near the line, leading to position on another ball near my side pocket. I was shaking and nervous that if I missed the shot, he could run out. So I went for a ball that was on the spot instead. I pocketed it to get on hill and match point, then knocked all his balls up table in the subsequent innings. After the match a couple of the guys said I went for the wrong shot, and should have went for the easy 2 ball out. I said no way, I was nervous and shaking and all I was thinking was if I miss he can get out from the position. For ME in that situation it was 100% the right shot. They didn't agree, but I stand by it. I ended up winning that game 8-2 about 20 min later. Oh, the table was ordered from Diamond with the one pocket cut. I can't remember if 4 1/8" or 4 1/4".

I was cold and hard the whole match, really focusing and taking it seriously. I didn't want to give him a single inch. After I sunk the match ball all my emotions came out. I was almost in tears when the ball sunk. I had to sit down I was really shaking bad a good 20 minutes after. I think it was not only the nerves, but a lack of sleep that really pushed me.

My opponent and I talked a good bit a couple hours later, and he thanked me for the game. He had never played near that high, and he said he also had similar emotions and shakiness to me while he was playing. We sort of connected on that level.

We'll probably do it again sometime in the future.
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great win nick ....🤑💰🏆
i play alot of onepocket
you played the right shot for you at that time
you played the score and took the lowest risk shot available when your confidence was low
not everyone shoots like filler
 
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Although the presentation was compelling and well done I was left a bit wanting because I kept expecting this but it wasn't delivered.

"Now let's isolate the top 8 players finishing in this high dollar event event and compare their data to the rest of the field as two separate group"

"And then let's have a look at the same criteria for the entire group compared to a random sampling of players in the system with a 553 average"

Because if all 63 are sandbaggers than none of them are right?

What is the average performance for the same histograms already discussed for these two groups?

What is the average robustness for these two groups?

This would have been powerful to "yeh but" proof your presentation but unfortunately you didn't do it leaving the scepital minds to still think there is a chance you're cherry picking data that you like and hiding thing you may find that you don't.

Just the fact you are the only one's with access to the full database to "discover" things already make it suspect in many minds.

Not criticizing, just saying you should dig deeper and report the results if your goal is to end the actual criticism. This video came up short IMO .
 
iusedtoberich said:
Yes, we played on 2. I can't remember if 4 1/8" or 4 1/4". It was my first time using the 3D printed ball holders I made in an actual match. I really like them! Sometimes I get stupid while playing and can't count the balls in the ball holder on a GC, and especially the Diamond wire holder where there is no separation between the two opponents and the balls don't line up straight. This 3D printed rack with the numbers I just glanced at the numbers and knew the score. Also there was a text chain with my buddies and one buddy was in the room. From across the room he could see the score and was updating the text chain.

Here is that thread for anyone wondering what I'm talking about: https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/3d-printed-one-pocket-ball-rack.585586/
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I like the ball holders too.
 
iusedtoberich said:
...Wed I called an old buddy of mine that's the only person I know who has a 9' Diamond at home. I went to his house, and it was a red label (I thought it was blue before going). It played awesome though. I loved it. ...
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iusedtoberich said:
... I was super happy with the table. Best Diamond blue label I ever played on. This room for some reason the Diamonds just play great. ...
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What have you done with Nick!?! :eek::mad:

If you really are Nick, I think you should send half of the $5k to Diamond.:devilish:

Oh, and congratulations! (y)
 
Bob Jewett said:
What have you done with Nick!?! :eek::mad:

If you really are Nick, I think you should send half of the $5k to Diamond.:devilish:

Oh, and congratulations! (y)
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I met Glen at the Expo. We actually got along great. I don't know if its super public knowledge, but lets just say I'll be even happier with how Diamond's play come about Q1 2027. They will be a lot closer to the new GC7. Wink wink.
 
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iusedtoberich said:
…I only had 2 days to prepare…The next day I drove to the room the match would be played at. I was hiding because I didn't want my opponent to see me play before the match…
…I stayed there until about 1am, loosening rail bolts and the spot was worn so I replaced it and offset by a half inch.
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What?!? That’s cold! 👺😇

Good job. I don’t understand though. All the random Tuesday night practice matches that you’ve recorded, but when you play a set for big bucks that people would really want to see?
 
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Coos Cues said:
Although the presentation was compelling and well done I was left a bit wanting because I kept expecting this but it wasn't delivered.

"Now let's isolate the top 8 players finishing in this high dollar event event and compare their data to the rest of the field as two separate group"

"And then let's have a look at the same criteria for the entire group compared to a random sampling of players in the system with a 553 average"

Because if all 63 are sandbaggers than none of them are right?

What is the average performance for the same histograms already discussed for these two groups?

What is the average robustness for these two groups?

This would have been powerful to "yeh but" proof your presentation but unfortunately you didn't do it leaving the scepital minds to still think there is a chance you're cherry picking data that you like and hiding thing you may find that you don't.

Just the fact you are the only one's with access to the full database to "discover" things already make it suspect in many minds.

Not criticizing, just saying you should dig deeper and report the results if your goal is to end the actual criticism. This video came up short IMO .
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Oh , yes you were criticizing. A well thought out post.
 
The winner of my 1000 entry event in vegas, is already back on the stall, and his games are all private again (he turned them off the day after the tournament). hahaha. I'll make a graph of his rating later.

Today:
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I've stayed out of commenting about the 1000 event, and Mike's analysis, which I did watch when he released it a couple months ago or so. I've just been focusing on me. But since it was brought back up, I just made a quick table of his rating. I'll update it from time to time. Maybe follow him on Digital Pool also, which has more info on the tournaments than the FargoRate app does.

Joshua Manuel's rating change:
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Here is all of his history on Digital Pool, under two names (same name, same city, same person). I don't know why it doesn't show the $1000 entry tournament. Digital Pool is funny a lot of times, even on my own profile it's missing a bunch of tournematns. No idea why. But what it does show is he played 7 total events, and won 3 of them, and got 2nd on one of them. Pretty good ratio, even if your name is SVB!

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