Highest percentage way to shoot this with BIH, playing Back Pocket 9 Ball

I am perplexed that someone of your skill level and gambling experience is even asking this question. Do you not do any drills? Like Mighty X or so.

If you didn't have BIH, I could maybe understand.

This is akin to asking how to lag.

Also, whoever suggested a cut shot, hates their money.
 
skogstokig said:
this is the strangest WWYD in the forum's history
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haha. Believe me I know. That's why I had to preface it with "not a joke".
Really though, I can't think of a game this shot comes up in except Back Pocket 9 Ball. It comes up at least once per session playing it. I'm pretty sure Pete Fusco has missed it a few times, as he played this game for decades.
 
overlord said:
Why would there be any need to jack up?
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One way to set it up is like I have it in the opening picture. They are close enough that a little bit of jacked up is needed to avoid a double hit. Just a touch.

One could argue putting them closer together increases the accuracy, while jacking up decreases it. That's the crux of my question. Is there an optimal setup?

Also the speed. Some guys, especially my speed (570) will hit this "exact" pocket speed so if it misses the 9 hangs on the edge. Some will hit it a bit firmer, so if it misses the 9 might bounce 1 diamond. I don't think anyone hits it harder than that.

I used to play this game weekly in the late 90's, but haven't in 25 years. Just started playing it again so I'm out of practice with a lot of the moves.
 
PS, has anyone here played this game? It was super popular in Philadelphia from the 80's through the 2000's. Then most of the people that played it daily died off. From my understanding, Pete Fusco was the main champion of the game, and did try to spread it around the country in his travels. There was also a shortened version called "Bare Ball" that starts with only the 9 ball, not using balls 1-8. Similar to "one ball one pocket", but the 9 goes in the back pockets, not the front.

I think the "back pocket 9 ball world championships" won by Mike Gulluyase had a bastardized version of the rules.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Not a joke. This shot comes up playing "Back Pocket 9 Ball" a bit. I don't think it comes up in any other game. Opponent scratches while pocketing the 9. 9 spots and you must shoot it to your far pocket. I've seen top local players miss it over the years.

How would you shoot it? How much space would you leave between CB and 9? Would you leave like 2 balls and jack up a hair and shoot a bit firmer? Or leave more space and shoot a longer follow thru? Would you hit it pocket speed to hang it up if you miss? Or would you hit it a bit more speed. Assume average pool hall level conditions.

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Aim the tip of your cue through the center of the cue ball, through the center of the object ball, to the back of the pocket. Loose relaxed grip. Medium soft speed. Easy peezy.
 
iusedtoberich said:
One way to set it up is like I have it in the opening picture. They are close enough that a little bit of jacked up is needed to avoid a double hit. Just a touch.

One could argue putting them closer together increases the accuracy, while jacking up decreases it. That's the crux of my question. Is there an optimal setup?
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iusedtoberich said:
PS, has anyone here played this game?
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my answer would be the distance where you dont have to jack up.
my second answer is i used to play it when 9 ballers would try to gamble with me when they were clearly better
usually they didnt know the game and i would say its like nine ball but the breaker has to call before the break which back pocket is his for the 9 to win the game and i get the other back pocket for the 9 to win
the games ended up like 1 ball onepocket which i knew better than them and often i would beat them when i would definitely lose playing regular 9 ball.
i found at around 650 fargo or so they could more commonly play position to make the 9 in their pocket or make the bank necessary
 
iusedtoberich said:
Well I'm shocked as hell some of your are saying 6-9" gap, and some of your are saying to play a cut shot. You'd do that at $50 or $100 per game?
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Curious as to why you'd ask the question, then.

Long story short, it's an easy shot. I just shot ten in a row with the cueball a comfortable distance from the end rail and anywhere from the center diamond to the left diamond.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Curious as to why you'd ask the question, then.

Long story short, it's an easy shot. I just shot ten in a row with the cueball a comfortable distance from the end rail and anywhere from the center diamond to the left diamond.
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Exactly. I don't see how this is different from literally any other shot where you have ball in hand.

Just shoot the damn ball into the pocket. There is nothing to think about if you have ball in hand.

This thread is a case of analysis paralysis.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
I am perplexed that someone of your skill level and gambling experience is even asking this question. Do you not do any drills? Like Mighty X or so.

If you didn't have BIH, I could maybe understand.

This is akin to asking how to lag.

Also, whoever suggested a cut shot, hates their money.
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I wouldn't suggest the cut although going the other way, in regular 9 ball, I often place for a comfortable cut. Easier to see, less throw effect, more familiar than dead straight.
 
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