That match was a whitewash in games (11-0) and balls pocketed (99-0), but it wasn't a runout of the whole match. Ko had 6 B&Rs -- a 3-pack, a 2-pack, and a single. In the other 5 games, Yapp got to the table a total of 7 times (plus returning a push) -- 1 missed shot, 5 kicks, and 1 poor safety. Ko actually had what I would call a missed shot. In Game 9 he pushed out to a jump shot. Yapp returned it and Ko missed the shot (a 2/9 combo) but slopped a hook. So, superb play by Ko, but not a full-match runout.
9-Ball needs to be fixed
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So the example he provided wasn't an example at all
to my knowledge there hasn't been a blowout on a tv table in any MR event. i believe filler ran the sat on svb at derby this year, last year, or both
InsertCleverNameHere
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SVB missed at least 4 times in that set. Nobody has ever run the entire set out in any game at the derby. They even have a rule for it, if the opening player runs out the set then the other player gets a chance to match it. It has never been used.
In the DCC 9-Ball streamed matches, Filler beat SVB 9-2 this year and 9-0 last year. In the 9-0 last year (81-0 in balls pocketed), Filler had 8 B&Rs, Games 1 and 3-9. In Game 2, SVB got to the table 4 times for kicks and safeties, but he scratched on the 4th, and Filler ran out the set from there.
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There is, however, Kaci's uninterrupted 8-pack at 10-ball against Pagulayan. We can conclude from this that 10-ball is a much easier game than 9-ball. 
There is, however, Kaci's uninterrupted 8-pack at 10-ball against Pagulayan. We can conclude from this that 10-ball is a much easier game than 9-ball.
I just realized that is on YouTube.
Wasn't this before his injury?
Yeah, 5 years earlier. This was 2018. His accident was in July 2023.
Yup. Kaçi was just 19 at that time (July 2018) and had already won 2 of Appleton's 8-Ball events the prior year at age 18 plus second place to Shaw in the US Open 9-Ball. He played pretty well for a kid, eh? But as an example of how fickle or erratic play can be in pool, he finished just 9th/12th in that 10-Ball event after that perfect match (except for Pagulayan conceding 7 of the 8 10-balls).There is, however, Kaci's uninterrupted 8-pack at 10-ball against Pagulayan. We can conclude from this that 10-ball is a much easier game than 9-ball.
A rule I've heard suggested is that the person who controls the table after the break chooses who will push out, so there is an advantage to making a ball.
DieselPete
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Thinking this through.
I break and make a ball.
I can either:
Shoot
Push out
Leave the ball in place and give you the table
You can then:
Shoot
Push out
(And is there an option for: GIve the table back, and the breaker must now do something that moves the cue ball, like shoot or push out?)
No, the first shot after the break shot is always a push out. The only question is who will be pushing. If you make a ball on the break you have a choice of pushing out yourself or having your opponent push out.
After the push out, the other player chooses who will shoot.
DieselPete
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I see.
I think I like my idea better. : )
Seriously though, imagine a world in which a player makes a ball and has the one ball open and straight in and can't shoot it because someone has to push out. I just don't see that as a fun game to play or watch. But that's just one man's opinion.
Good point....
that is an option. but all still bad ways to get around the fact that the break is no longer a random power shot which takes much of the excitement out of the game.
easy rule change is spot all balls made on the break then with more tied up and a full 9 balls in play will make for more decisions rather than short open run out tables.
On the other side.... Both players are involved in every rack. It is more or less pointless to cheat with gaps and pattern racking. Triangle racking is sufficient, and break cues are not needed.