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More like AKC registry, without the inbreeding of cues...
I feel like you spend a lot of time on 4Chan or maybe the Epstein reddit
anyone else who's cue was lost or stolen
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More like AKC registry, without the inbreeding of cues...
I feel like you spend a lot of time on 4Chan or maybe the Epstein reddit
That would substantially reduce its usefulness, even beyond the inability to compel people to report transfers of ownership.
Also, I can only assume you're projecting with the rest of your reply.
Dude it would be database for ICCS members to allow cataloging, store/validate LOA's, and pedigrees of very expensive cues.
I'm sorry it would not be useful to you but your probably not the target demo if that helps any.
What it's not is a registry of Predators and Mezz cues that got lifted from peoples cars while they were in the Piggly Wiggly
You're not making a compelling case for its usefulness. It sounds like it shares the same shortcomings of any number of similar databases for equipment of various other activities, i.e., works great on paper but is less than useful in practice.
Incidentally, I don't own any production cues, and haven't for decades.
Incidentally, I don't own any production cues, and haven't for decades.
How about when Owner1 sells the cue to new Owner 2, there’s a actual bill of sale that Owner 2 can submit to change the registration. It includes Owner 1 contact information and Owner 2 plus both of their legible signatures on the Bill of Sale. Owner 2 can submit the Bill of Sale to this Registry or DataBank to get registered as the new owner.
In the example cited about the pawn shop, Owner 2 gets screwed out of pawning his cue and learns a valuable lesson.
How many times is a stolen cue illegally sold or pawned versus how many time does the situation arise with Owner 2
getting gutted at the pool table and can’t pay the rent. There are lots of times when making the rent can be a challenge
for some people, especially with the currently uncertain economical conditions but because of losing at pool, very few
instances, IMO. Cues can get stolen easily and not from your car trunk. Hmn……how about airline travel to an event?
You land successfully at your destination airport but your cue don’t get there, i.e., missing luggage or maybe not inside
yours. Your cues are gone and although some readers might not take their cues with them on a trip, many others do.
Who in TSA or the airline is going to do squat to locate or try recovering your missing pool cues? Well, no one would.
Having a cue registry might not result in recovering your cues but at least there’s be a better chance so why not try?
In the example cited about the pawn shop, Owner 2 gets screwed out of pawning his cue and learns a valuable lesson.
How many times is a stolen cue illegally sold or pawned versus how many time does the situation arise with Owner 2
getting gutted at the pool table and can’t pay the rent. There are lots of times when making the rent can be a challenge
for some people, especially with the currently uncertain economical conditions but because of losing at pool, very few
instances, IMO. Cues can get stolen easily and not from your car trunk. Hmn……how about airline travel to an event?
You land successfully at your destination airport but your cue don’t get there, i.e., missing luggage or maybe not inside
yours. Your cues are gone and although some readers might not take their cues with them on a trip, many others do.
Who in TSA or the airline is going to do squat to locate or try recovering your missing pool cues? Well, no one would.
Having a cue registry might not result in recovering your cues but at least there’s be a better chance so why not try?
Was it yout prototype Predator? That cue hit great.
Fair enough. What happens if Owner 2 is unaware of the registry?
It can get tricky when one party suggests another party might be in possession of goods that do not belong to them.
That's one reason many bike shops will keep an eye out for specific bikes stolen from their customers/friends, but won't proactively check bikes with questionable provenance unless they actually recognize the bike and know a recent owner thereof. Bikes aren't cues, but there exist multiple registries for bikes that were set up for similar reasons, with the best of intentions, but have proven themselves not very useful.
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I’d like to think and believe that if Owner 1 went so far to establish and document ownership of the cue,
they’d inform the buyer of it and cooperate with whatever process is establish for re-registering the new
ownership of the cue. If you bother to participate or pay for registering your cue(s), you realize failure to
not get the cue registered in the new buyer’s name can only lead to questions or problems for someone
at some future point in time.
And seller (Owner 1), you’d want to be kept out of future involvement with this cue you’re now selling. So
Owner 1, or any future subsequent sellers of the cue, can directly apprise the Registry, or DataBank, with
a copy of a Bill of Sale I referred to in a prior post. I think there are better minds than myself to engineer this.
they’d inform the buyer of it and cooperate with whatever process is establish for re-registering the new
ownership of the cue. If you bother to participate or pay for registering your cue(s), you realize failure to
not get the cue registered in the new buyer’s name can only lead to questions or problems for someone
at some future point in time.
And seller (Owner 1), you’d want to be kept out of future involvement with this cue you’re now selling. So
Owner 1, or any future subsequent sellers of the cue, can directly apprise the Registry, or DataBank, with
a copy of a Bill of Sale I referred to in a prior post. I think there are better minds than myself to engineer this.
LibraryFool77
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Bava, in theory and logic your position is unfallible. Unfortunately, a lot of us pool players are idiots. I’ve never had a cue stolen, left one at a pool hall I worked at, it closed and someone who bought out the remnants ended up with my original cue, I paid to get it back, it was my error in the first place. My best friend had a custom set, playing, jump and break that is 1 of 1 that would be impossible to sell on the open market ripped off out of his car a few years ago.
The problems arise when cues are inherited, and heirs are unaware of registry or perhaps even value. Also, lots of people can be less than diligent about following up once the money from the sale is in their hands.
Like I said, the registries are well-meaning, but they all seem to share the same issues that can lead to problems.
Like I said, the registries are well-meaning, but they all seem to share the same issues that can lead to problems.
Long ago I developed the habit of taking my cue to the restroom with me. Keeping it beyond the urinal splash range was required. One evening a dirt bag thought I wasn't watching it as I pissed. He was mistaken. He put a hand on it, I immediately stated in a matter of fact tone, "You have a hold of a whole lot more than you want to F*** with." He immediately released and slunk out the door.
I also had the habit of wiping the shaft with a damp paper towel. First with a little soap and then a rinse swipe with water only. The finishing dry swipe yielded a nice squeak when done properly.
LibraryFool77
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Did you aim and fire at the douche? I would have if my bladder wasn’t drained!
I did point him out to management upon exit after finishing my habitual paper towel cleaning of the shaft. Pretty sure he was evicted er uh 86'ed.
LibraryFool77
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lol, your cue shaft? Right.
Cleanliness is next to godliness. So yeah if I want to shoot like God I gotta keep it clean.
Yes, but fortunately they had another one.
LibraryFool77
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Opinion of the Segen Evan built you?
Lost a converted house cue at a little bar/poolroom in Richmond, IN. I was maybe 20 and still new to this life. They had a .25 and .50 Ring game every day and I was killing it. The local guys took a dislike to me and when I went to the bathroom I left my cue on the table. When I came back it was gone. Must have been a dozen guys sitting around and no one saw anything! That cue never came back.
its a cue stick. where do you stop. do you start registering your watch or expensive shoes or whatever. your lawn mower. that costs as much as some cues.
what prevents the creep from just sanding off the engrave number. if its hidden it wont ever be seen again.
what prevents the creep from just sanding off the engrave number. if its hidden it wont ever be seen again.
Years later lost my Schrager cue. My car was stolen with the cue/case
Also had my first Gina stolen out of my poolroom in Bakersfield. It had my name in the butt. Someone found that cue like 30 years later in a pawnshop. It was badly warped, basically unusable. He offered to give it to me and I told him to keep it.
Years later I lost my Schrager cue. My car was stolen with the cue in the back seat. The car was recovered, the cue was gone never to return.
Also had my first Gina stolen out of my poolroom in Bakersfield. It had my name in the butt. Someone found that cue like 30 years later in a pawnshop. It was badly warped, basically unusable. He offered to give it to me and I told him to keep it.