I’m still stunned about the threats to him and his family
Shaw vs. Doung Quoc Hoang
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I’m still stunned about the threats to him and his family
among 1+ million viewers there's bound to be at least one maniac. the positive thing is the 1 million viewers.
At 92-84 Jayson missed a cut shot on the eight that would have brougjt him within seven at 92-85. That's when he gave up, losing 24 of the next 25 games! Score was now 106-85.
I guess the upside is he didn't falsely accuse them of trying to jar him like he did Dennis. Dude is a clown.
The kids all love Hoang! Reminds me of Efren in the Philippines. Hoang is a national hero.
Watch out. Some of these will become top players. More to come from Vietnam.
Watch out. Some of these will become top players. More to come from Vietnam.
The guy was making 3 or 4 balls many times. Had 3 balls above the side.
Shaw is a crybaby. Literally checked out on day 4 losing 40 to 9. Who wants to back or sponsor this?
15k for four days is too small a bet but whatever.
when in a gambling game or for any i dont see a reason for telling someone how hard they can hit the break. if the rack is a problem fix that before the bet and start.
and sort out your parameters before such as chalk use or whatever if that is going to bother you.
but complaining and arguing may be part of the strategy to upset your opponent. most wont like that and think gambling like a tournament should be marcus of queensberry rules but in real life it isn't.
and a good reason not to play sets as its too hard to control what happens when the loser is breaking rules or customs. your only recourse is to call the match off.
but now they play long sets streaming so they are not really gambling as such as they both are getting some kind of pay to play.
you never really know what the true stakes are. or if the outcome has been predetermined.
when in a gambling game or for any i dont see a reason for telling someone how hard they can hit the break. if the rack is a problem fix that before the bet and start.
and sort out your parameters before such as chalk use or whatever if that is going to bother you.
but complaining and arguing may be part of the strategy to upset your opponent. most wont like that and think gambling like a tournament should be marcus of queensberry rules but in real life it isn't.
and a good reason not to play sets as its too hard to control what happens when the loser is breaking rules or customs. your only recourse is to call the match off.
but now they play long sets streaming so they are not really gambling as such as they both are getting some kind of pay to play.
you never really know what the true stakes are. or if the outcome has been predetermined.
Apparently 90 was also long enough for Shaw.
Been hearing this for years now, Jay, but the emergence of a large contingent of world class players from Vietnam has yet to happen. Duong will be 40 in May, and nobody has emerged that seems ready to have the torch passed to them.
Fifteen years ago, many precicted that Taiwan would soon produce a lot of world championship level players, and they were right, with JL Chang and the Ko brothers leading the way. On the other hand, I recall how seven or eight years ago, many (including Jeremy Jones) were predicting that Poland, where pool was growing by leaps and bounds, might begin to dominate in 9ball, but to this point, no Polish player has ever won a Matchroom major or qualified for Team Europe at the Mosconi.
The road to the top of our sport is a very difficult one, and while it would make me happy to see a large contingent of world championship level Vietnamese players emerge, I am less confident than you that it will happen. Regardless, the Vietnamese players and fans are a credit to our sport and their limitless enthusiasm for the game of pool has impressed all of us. I wish every one of them well.
insidesp.in
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regardless of whether someone is soft-breaking or not, how bad of a look is it for Shaw that hes the guy always complaining about something. it feels very Earl Strickland to me, kinda passing his prime trying to use whatever edge he can gain.
Yes, knew all that, but I'm just trying to point out that the road to the top is difficult and that just because pool is growing rapidly in a country doesn't ensure that a large contingent of world championship level players will follow.
Of course, in this century, both Taiwan and Poland have demonstrated how a country's gradual infatuation with pool can affect the balance of power in the pro game.
We should all celebrate the growth of pool in every place in which it occurs. In this respect, countries like Taiwan, Poland and Vietnam should all inspire us, not to mention motivate us. It is to pool's great advantage when players from these countries win big titles, fueling the growth within their own countries and inspiring countless others.
The globalization of the game that has occurred in the past decade is one of the best things that ever happened to pool!
There's a difference between "more to come" and "dominate." Having recently been to Vietnam, I played a lot of pool and saw more interest and enthusiasm there, especially amongst the younger crowd, than I did even in the Philippines. So many teenagers/young adults were playing, the median age in the pool halls had to have been 19, if that. Quite a few also wanted to play me, the middle-aged white guy, once they realized I'm no slouch.
I agree with Jay that there will be a lot more Vietnamese pool players making names for themselves internationally than just the one they currently have. Dominate? Who knows. But in ten years there will be a list of names people recognize...just like there is for Poland, and for Taiwan.
Thanks for sharing your first-hand experience regarding the Vietnamese pool scene. It was very enlightening.
I did not predict a "large contingent" of world champion players who would dominate our sport. What I do predict is a few top speed players who can compete with the other champions in a similar way as Hoang. From this group perhaps one or two will emerge as special, like the Ko brothers.
Jay, not sure you're aware of this but in the last 6-8 years several Vietmanese 3C players have emerged qickly & high in the World rankings!
They are Very much 'Systematic' players, a few play very good position and fighters to end!
DieselPete
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Is there a chance that both players were paid an equal appearance fee and that the amount they were playing for ($15k) was a fraction of that, or some such situation that Shaw was willing to give up winning to get the heck out of there?
Hard to imagine they played for four days for "only" 15K when we see so many guys that are borderline pros playing for far more in sets that last one or two days.
Hard to imagine they played for four days for "only" 15K when we see so many guys that are borderline pros playing for far more in sets that last one or two days.
Money and skill have no bearing on one another
DieselPete
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OK...
My point, which might have been missed...
You could put on an exhibition event and through sponsorship money pay both players an appearance fee. Say, $15k each. Then put another $15k in the middle, so they will play hard.
Then one player is losing, badly, and decides that he'll take the $15k he was given (perhaps plus travel expenses) and start to mail in his effort instead of grinding like a champion.
SO...
Any idea if they were paid an appearance fee to participate in this event?