John Schmidt runs 820

so wait which is it?

did jayson run 669 “technically” and john ran 672 (*677) “technically”, or was it just an amazing 714 and an amazing 820 and we can all stop being insane about this?

for the record, i dont care, and just love seeing good straight pool.

jayson ran 830 something clean though. the 669/714 was the previous record
 
I personally have Shaw at 714 (before he ran the 830 something). I understand all the hoopla about the touched ball and the BCA changing it to 669. Almost the entire country on every tournament plays cb fouls only. I watched his 714 live (the last hour or so), and I bought the zip drive that was advertised as 714.

Hell, he even got a 714 tattoo!

Same as I have Schmidt at 820. Yes, I saw the nudged OB.

To each his own. All of those runs were amazing.
 
I personally have Shaw at 714 (before he ran the 830 something). I understand all the hoopla about the touched ball and the BCA changing it to 669. Almost the entire country on every tournament plays cb fouls only. I watched his 714 live (the last hour or so), and I bought the zip drive that was advertised as 714.

Hell, he even got a 714 tattoo!

Same as I have Schmidt at 820. Yes, I saw the nudged OB.

To each his own. All of those runs were amazing.
same. didnt buy the drive but i did send john s $6.26 while watching his run. monster runs are awesome.

jayson ran 830 something clean though. the 669/714 was the previous record
indeed
 
Running endless racks then cutting out the part you like best just makes the player and the WPA look silly.

Hu
 
Running endless racks then cutting out the part you like best just makes the player and the WPA look silly.

Hu
There is a shortage of credible demonstration. 2 so far. Ball making tirade and pattern playing tirade. AFAIC, Patrick Johnson posting a VP run on max tight with calculated patterns and study guide ( :LOL: ) would be more beneficial.
 
There is a shortage of credible demonstration. 2 so far. Ball making tirade and pattern playing tirade. AFAIC, Patrick Johnson posting a VP run on max tight with calculated patterns and study guide ( :LOL: ) would be more beneficial.

Clean runs that long get hard to come by. The 832 was clean the last I knew but I don't remember if there was an audience. So called exhibitions usually include an audience.

I think the other benefits of today more than make up for the table differences from way back when. I think there should be a traveling nine foot table with four and a half to four and three-quarter pockets and let any of the top six or eight finishers rotate through six tries to set a record, anybody that wants to watching, plus video. No asterisk.

Hu
 
Clean runs that long get hard to come by. The 832 was clean the last I knew but I don't remember if there was an audience. So called exhibitions usually include an audience.

I think the other benefits of today more than make up for the table differences from way back when. I think there should be a traveling nine foot table with four and a half to four and three-quarter pockets and let any of the top six or eight finishers rotate through six tries to set a record, anybody that wants to watching, plus video. No asterisk.

Hu

I'm saying there exists now the ability to study and <organize> long runs. The only analogies I have to draw on are the old beboppers. John Coltrane and Charlie Parker stand out. They'd go on and on in their own minds with varying results. The rest of the field - the lissnin crowd - absorbed it all and distilled the cool parts and spread the word until now the shit is teachable as arts and sciences. Some trick for 2 guys just blowin dey hawn. Rockers can maybe relate - or unrelate to the dreaded 20 minute drum solo. Same thing.
 
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Stay tuned. We will be hosting John Schmidt and Bob Keller on our podcast tomorrow to tell their whole story. Allison Fisher and Mark Wilson co-host.
 
Clean runs that long get hard to come by. The 832 was clean the last I knew but I don't remember if there was an audience. So called exhibitions usually include an audience.

I think the other benefits of today more than make up for the table differences from way back when. I think there should be a traveling nine foot table with four and a half to four and three-quarter pockets and let any of the top six or eight finishers rotate through six tries to set a record, anybody that wants to watching, plus video. No asterisk.

Hu
I can answer to this. Yes the 832 high runs was as clean as it gets. No ball fouls, no cue ball fouls, no double hits, & no contact from clothing. Once the run started not a single ball was ever marked to be cleaned or cleaned at all. The racker didn’t even wear any gloves so the oils and dirt from racking stayed on the balls.
The racker never got out of his seat to look at any angles or coached Jayson when there were tough or no shots. The volume was on the camera the whole time. There was an overhead camera not an overview camera and the table had a table spot with a full outline drawn so there was no chance the balls could have been racked high,low or sideways. The run was done on a live stream and was viewed by 47k people. The pockets were 4.9 at the corners and 5.3 at the sides. The throats of the pockets were just under 4.5 and the pocket angles were not altered to swallow the balls from a diamond away hitting a ball from a center table shot and still going. These are all factory gold crown 1 specs as the table was built in 1963. So I hope clears that up as I was the racker and the owner of the world record 832 table.
As far as high runs on smaller pockets I’d like to see it also but I got my hands full with putting together the huge event I’m doing with 12 world champions for high runs and 300k in available prize money and when that event closes out I will be having a true World straight pool championship sanctioned by the WPA with large prize money.
I’d love to see other people put up lots of money to do high run events. Nick Van Deburg was trying to put something together so I hope he continues to try and has my support with whatever he needs. Straight pool in Europe is very big.
 
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I can answer to this. Yes the 832 high runs was as clean as it gets. No ball fouls, no cue ball fouls, no double hits, & no contact from clothing. Once the run started not a single ball was ever marked to be cleaned or cleaned at all. The racker didn’t even wear any gloves so the oils and dirt from racking stayed on the balls.
The racker never got out of his seat to look at any angles or coached Jayson when there were tough or no shots. The volume was on the camera the whole time. There was an overhead camera not an overview camera and the table had a table spot with a full outline drawn so there was no chance the balls could have been racked high,low or sideways. The run was done on a live stream and was viewed by 47k people. The pockets were 4.9 at the corners and 5.3 at the sides. The throats of the pockets were just under 4.5 and the pocket angles were not altered to swallow the balls from a diamond away hitting a ball from a center table shot and still going. These are all factory gold crown 1 specs as the table was built in 1963. So I hope clears that up as I was the racker and the owner of the world record 832 table.
As far as high runs on smaller pockets I’d like to see it also but I got my hands full with putting together the huge event I’m doing with 12 world champions for high runs and 300k in available prize money and when that event closes out I will be having a true World straight pool championship sanctioned by the WPA with large prize money.
I’d love to see other people put up lots of money to do high run events. Nick Van Deburg was trying to put something together so I hope he continues to try and has my support with whatever he needs. Straight pool in Europe is very big.

Thank you for the update and good luck in your efforts!

Hu
 
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