How about someone or many people get together and put up a nice cash reward for anyone who can beat the world record straight pool run? We could finally see it beat maybe soon in our lifetime. Maybe !0,000 dollars and any one can do it with a witness and maybe video? You would have alot more people trying i think if their was a bounty on beating the record. What is it like 526? By mosconi? Im talkin bout the record that is legit and on paper not the rumors of higher runs.
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Sadly, it would take more than one witness and the video would be critiqued ad nausem for years before the record would be considered broken by many. Though for Guiness something similar to what was drafted for Willie Mosconi might sufficie. But just because someone runs 527 and video tapes it doesn't count it would have to be in competition or exhibition.
Hmmm well i guess your right with a good video editor i could beat the run lol! Dang there must be a way to get the 526 beat. Maybe some kind of competition. I don't mean that guiness has to recognize the new record it would be nice if they did i guess but im just sayin lets try and beat the 526 that was on paper. I know with todays pros it can be done i just dont think there is reward for them to try.
This is not the record, just the record pertaining to competition/exhibition. There is little doubt in my mind that the great Art "Babe" Cranfield, who Irving Crane once suggested had more 300+ runs than any other player in history, had two practice runs over 700, including a 768, but I think it correct that these runs not be counted. Mike Eufemia ran over 600, too, but it was a practice run.
The best way to get a record would be to set up a multi-city exhibition tour with the two guys who, in my view, are the two most likely to outdo Mosconi's exhibition run. That, in my opinion, would be Thorsten Hohmann and John Schmidt. If such a tour were ever seriously considered, I'd definitely offer some financial support and would also help fund the prize for outdoing Mosconi.
Why not recreate the circumstances under which the most celebrated run occurred and, in doing so, allow people in many cities to see great 14.1 up close and personal?
I think there are others you would have to include like Thomas Engert with 492. Here's the list of high runs from another AZ Thread.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=25176&page=11
Wow! 768 balls is %^&kin amazing! I tell ya i love 9 and 10 ball but these straight pool runs just amaze me more than anything. I mean its you against you and the table its pure to me. And when i think heck i can shoot any ball it almost sounds simple at times but it is by far the toughest thing and gets tougher the higher your run gets because you start thinking about it lol. I have not really ever tried for a high run i did a few times and made it to 56 lol, i was just amazed at how tough it actually is. I pocket balls very well and play good position when im "on" so i thought i could do 100 easy but i was way wrong. Well i just been thinking about it lately and now i want to see 800 at least that will cover the cranfield and mosconi runs. Plus set the bar for the next big run.
Do they have to achieve this high run on a 4x8 table with buckets to shoot the balls in like Mosconi did? Just to keep it fair of coarse! Oh and by the way since there are hardly any exhibitions now days compared to back then and since there's always time lines to meet in the tournaments these days. What are the chances that if someone runs a 150 off of the break that the other players or even the tournament directer for that matter is going to let them continue for that long to try and break the old record.
That was a different time when people showed respect and if someone was doing something special people would wait, be quite and show respect. The people who say that it has to be done the same way in my opinion don't want to see the old record broken, and it won't be if that's the case because these are different times and those same conditions just don't present themselves enough any more.
That was a different time when people showed respect and if someone was doing something special people would wait, be quite and show respect. The people who say that it has to be done the same way in my opinion don't want to see the old record broken, and it won't be if that's the case because these are different times and those same conditions just don't present themselves enough any more.
True i don't mind if they do it on todays equipment with todays best cues and balls etc. I think personally yes maybe the pockets were bigger back in the day but was'nt the balls made of clay or some maleable material that would actually warp? and roll untrue? I've played on some crappy equipment that did'nt roll true and its tough to do. I just don't think they had it as easy back in the day as people think. I may be wrong but dam we got some real nice equipment compared to what they had i think.
Not so.
An exhibition tour means two players, and I would not put anyone above Hohmann and Schmidt based on current form. Each of them has run over 400 and both are American based.
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Reward for beating 526
To the OP, and all others:
Bob Jewett & mark griffin have both agreed to put up $10,000 each (total of $20,000) to anyone that meats or beats mosconi's 526 at the hi-run challenge.
This takes place (for the 2nd year) at the BCAPL National Championships held at the Riviera in las Vegas. May 9-20, 2012.
4 chances for hi-run - total the 4 tries and the top players will have a shoot off. There is better info in the 14.1 forum.
Last year Danny Harriman had the had run (199) and the high total of 313.
I would like to see a pool of money put up for the top players to try and beat Mosconi's.
Mark Griffin.
To the OP, and all others:
Bob Jewett & mark griffin have both agreed to put up $10,000 each (total of $20,000) to anyone that meats or beats mosconi's 526 at the hi-run challenge.
This takes place (for the 2nd year) at the BCAPL National Championships held at the Riviera in las Vegas. May 9-20, 2012.
4 chances for hi-run - total the 4 tries and the top players will have a shoot off. There is better info in the 14.1 forum.
Last year Danny Harriman had the had run (199) and the high total of 313.
I would like to see a pool of money put up for the top players to try and beat Mosconi's.
Mark Griffin.
Thanks to Mark and Bob for that generous event. Please record all the attempts. A stream of the event would be nice too.
BigDaddy: Step up and donate to the 14.1 Challenges that are being held at events like the DCC and the SBE. These events are made possible largely through private donations and are the best hope of seeing a new official record. All runs are overseen by officials and at least a few spectators and take place under a competitive format. Some are streamed live, though I don't know if all attempts are recorded. I'd think anyone who runs 527+ at one of these challenges would have a good claim to the record.
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My information is that Mike Eufemia ran 625 at an exhibition on February 2, 1960, against Michael Aherne on a 4 1/2 x 9 table at the Logan Billiard Academy at Logan and Fulton Streets in Brooklyn, NY in front of a standing-room-only audience. Mr. Aherne made the opening safety break and Mr. Eufemia then ran 625 balls.
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This is a terrific idea.
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The conditions should be made approximately the same, or else we cannot truly compare the outcomes.
Table size, type of balls, pocket size, cloth, rails should all be the same if you want to make comparisons.
Table size, type of balls, pocket size, cloth, rails should all be the same if you want to make comparisons.
That Eufemia's run was during practice and that nobody saw it from start to finish have been said many times, but that's not my understanding.
Take whatever money is being offered and also have the players attempting to break the record put a certain amount of money into the pot for each try which is held in escrow somewhere. The more attempts that are made, the more the pot grows until someone eventually breaks the record.
Eventually the pot will become so large that a serious attempt will be made by players that actually have the potential for breaking the record.
Eventually the pot will become so large that a serious attempt will be made by players that actually have the potential for breaking the record.
In the 14.1 Challenge the players do pay an entry fee. Problem is I don't see players paying an entry fee to an event that pays off only to the record breaker. The fact that the record has stood for so long testifies to its difficulty. We're not talking about a 8 or 9 Ball break contest that builds until someone sinks the game ball on the snap. I doubt the players would go for siphoning off even some of the money - heck, player moan about green fees. They prefer added money events, not events where some of the entry money is taken out of the prize fund.
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