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10-13-2019, 11:08 AM

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10-13-2019, 12:38 PM

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I’ve had one pool cue and one snooker cue that I could draw a lot farther than all the
other cues I’ve owned.
This is empirical knowledge...can’t tell you why.

I’ve also had cues that lay on their backs with all four paws in the air when a power draw
shot was attempted.
Yes sir Mr. Jewett. My answer to draw is like Rory Mcilroy's answer to "how far can you drive the ball?" "As far as I need to."

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10-13-2019, 01:00 PM

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Yes sir Mr. Jewett. My answer to draw is like Rory Mcilroy's answer to "how far can you drive the ball?" "As far as I need to."
I am not too hep on many things....but Iím pretty sure you arenít Ďballsí.


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10-13-2019, 03:03 PM

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Yes sir Mr. Jewett. My answer to draw is like Rory Mcilroy's answer to "how far can you drive the ball?" "As far as I need to."
W.C. Fields says they used to drive a mile, and put a 1/4 mile (of course the wind had to be at our backs).

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10-14-2019, 05:51 AM

Happy bday Deano.
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10-14-2019, 03:44 PM

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I am not too hep on many things....but Iím pretty sure you arenít Ďballsí.
I'm hep on a lot of things, and I have no idea what that means.
  
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10-14-2019, 05:45 PM

Still think to end the controversy on the cue... you need to let someone like
Dr-Dave-Billiards test the cue or someone like him... & it needs to go thru a
bunch of tests ON VIDEO to prove if it draws better then a normal cue...

Just my humble opinion... :-)
By the way --- Happy Birthday Dean!!!

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10-14-2019, 06:44 PM

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...you need to let someone like Dr-Dave-Billiards test the cue...
That would be ideal, but maybe logistically improbable.

Meanwhile, there are simple ways to test the amount of draw a cue is capable of. One is the old spot shot draw challenge:

- with CB in hand, shoot an OB off the spot to hit the far end rail dead center and rebound straight back

- hit the CB with maximum draw (confirm by using a striped "CB" and checking chalk marks)

- hit at the right speed to just get the CB back to the near end rail (~2' of draw)

The cue's "draw score" is the distance the OB stops short of rebounding all the way to the near end rail (less OB travel = higher score), while still drawing the CB all the way back to the near end rail.

Here's the "ideal" result I could get in Virtual Pool - the OB stopped short of mid table after rebounding off the far end rail (draw score: 50+ inches). When I tried this in the past I think the best I did was stop the OB short of the spot (draw score: 25+ inches).

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P.S. You can do this test without the trouble of using a striped "CB" and confirming chalk marks each shot, but then there's no telling how much of the result is due to stroke accuracy vs. stick performance.

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10-14-2019, 06:56 PM

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I'm hep on a lot of things, and I have no idea what that means.
AZ member Ďballsí.....has a theory that I am an alternate AZ account of Bob Jewett.

Iím a high school drop out...Iím pretty sure Bob has DR status with Berkeley.
...heís forgot more than I know about anything.

Iím pretty sure that Ďballsí thinks heís a good salesman and promoter.....
...but he managed to alienate a lot of AZers.


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two quality posters! - 10-14-2019, 07:13 PM

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AZ member Ďballsí.....has a theory that I am an alternate AZ account of Bob Jewett.

Iím a high school drop out...Iím pretty sure Bob has DR status with Berkeley.
...heís forgot more than I know about anything.

Iím pretty sure that Ďballsí thinks heís a good salesman and promoter.....
...but he managed to alienate a lot of AZers.



Two quality posters. Neither of you suffer in the comparison.

Like my old friend Terry Ardeno, you have a Phd too, a Pool Hall Degree!

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10-15-2019, 10:20 AM

Either time has changed the cue
or my memory has changed what it did


i am now backing off my previous claims

perhaps the 25 year old tip has hardened

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10-17-2019, 11:18 AM

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AZ member Ďballsí.....has a theory that I am an alternate AZ account of Bob Jewett.

Iím a high school drop out...Iím pretty sure Bob has DR status with Berkeley.
...heís forgot more than I know about anything.

Iím pretty sure that Ďballsí thinks heís a good salesman and promoter.....
...but he managed to alienate a lot of AZers.
Yeah he's crazy, as such, he is just a cog in my wheel of AZ entertainment.
  
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10-17-2019, 11:49 AM

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Either time has changed the cue
or my memory has changed what it did


i am now backing off my previous claims

perhaps the 25 year old tip has hardened

i give up
So it no longer draws the rock 6.5 long rails? bummer...Ö.


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10-17-2019, 01:06 PM

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That would be ideal, but maybe logistically improbable.

Meanwhile, there are simple ways to test the amount of draw a cue is capable of. One is the old spot shot draw challenge:

- with CB in hand, shoot an OB off the spot to hit the far end rail dead center and rebound straight back

- hit the CB with maximum draw (confirm by using a striped "CB" and checking chalk marks)

- hit at the right speed to just get the CB back to the near end rail (~2' of draw)

The cue's "draw score" is the distance the OB stops short of rebounding all the way to the near end rail (less OB travel = higher score), while still drawing the CB all the way back to the near end rail.

Here's the "ideal" result I could get in Virtual Pool - the OB stopped short of mid table after rebounding off the far end rail (draw score: 50+ inches). When I tried this in the past I think the best I did was stop the OB short of the spot (draw score: 25+ inches).

pj
chgo

P.S. You can do this test without the trouble of using a striped "CB" and confirming chalk marks each shot, but then there's no telling how much of the result is due to stroke accuracy vs. stick performance.

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PJ you should know a ball with less draw may rebound further then one with more draw.

Whats with the virtual stuff you dont get off the couch anymore


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10-17-2019, 01:22 PM

Scott tried the draw cue

he hit an object ball near the side pocket,the cue ball drew maybe 4 inches and proceed to look
like wykie coyote,spinning very fast in place on the new simona cloth

suddenly it took off back up table and back off the foot fail to the head rail


he did this 3 times

I personally have never seen such a thing

so Jack Potter is going to test the cue before i return it

if a good player comes to Dallas
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214 477 7323

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