I feel bad for him too and glad he is working this out.
So, how much did he lose ?
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I feel bad for him too and glad he is working this out.
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This whole event should just be between and those he owes money to. Which is why he shouldn't have posted those videos in the first place. They did nothing but make him look foolish and a poor businessman in front of many of his clientele. Makes no sense to publish those.
He is very smart but had a difficult upbringing. I don't want to play armchair psychologist, but maybe this will help to understand it, or help in case others here find themselves in a similar situation and may want to consider treatment.
https://www.promisesbehavioralhealth.com/addiction-recovery-blog/stages-of-compulsive-gambling/
Here are some excerpts:
Action Compulsive Gambler Profile:
Generally male, the action compulsive gambler possesses an I.Q. over 120, is controlling, manipulative and domineering and has a big ego. He is also confident, assertive, energetic and very persuasive, yet with a low self-esteem.
... Games of choice are typically those of skill
...The numbing or narcotic-like effect ... acts as a kind of medication to the action compulsive gambler. But it doesn’t stop the progression of compulsive gambling.
... Gambling to cover pain – Since gambling is the only activity that makes the action compulsive gambler feel better – he thinks – he continues gambling in order to cover up the increasing pain that he feels.
Like I said before, I personally don't think John is a compulsive gambler, but he is complicated and shares many of the traits they describe. I think his best solution would be to never bet a single penny again. Ever. If somebody goads him into betting, he needs to say "I can't do that. It's hurt me and my life. I don't want to be ruined."
If that means quitting pool, so be it.
Interesting.
Do you think sexual abuse was involved growing up?
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...ommunities/links/09e415063113534e9d000000.pdf
P.S. Would a $5 wager be considered a problem?
Right on John. So true. Glad you do. I do as well.
You will be back in a flash. You make the best cases and there is a demand for the best.
Heard alot bout the quality of ur cases , picked one up recently and was utterly amazed on the quality i got . Have never felt the same amount of protection while maintaining feather light weight .
As for ur gambling , you man up and gambled and took the consequences by acknowledging to pay up , i got nothin but respect .
Stay safe my friend , would like to get a custom order from you one day !
I wonder, if John had won, how many of those side bettors would have paid off?
My thoughts are probably few of them would have actually paid off.
I too, got lessons from an old hustler from my hometown. Make everyone post, especially those you know. (I was whining, about someone not paying me after a small win that didn't get paid) Look at the AZ action room and most are on "good action list" and those who welch only happens once.
John is an adult, and since he didn't make it clear that they would need to post if they lost, then just as he said, it was free money.
John pay your debt, take down the videos and move on.
I wish all parties the best,
Ken
My thoughts are probably few of them would have actually paid off.
I too, got lessons from an old hustler from my hometown. Make everyone post, especially those you know. (I was whining, about someone not paying me after a small win that didn't get paid) Look at the AZ action room and most are on "good action list" and those who welch only happens once.
John is an adult, and since he didn't make it clear that they would need to post if they lost, then just as he said, it was free money.
John pay your debt, take down the videos and move on.
I wish all parties the best,
Ken
LOL you just described 95% of the people on there.
I don't think that kind of abuse was involved. If I recall it was more of broken family issues.
Like I said, I'm not convinced he is a compulsive gambler just by the few episodes I've seen. But he seems to go off when he's on the stage. I've also seen gamblers do this in Las Vegas. They'll have a table to themselves and attract a crowd. The more cheering, the higher the bet, losing 100K, 200K is not as important as putting on the show.
On the abstaining from gambling thing, I was a former very heavy cigarette smoker. I know I can't just have a cigarette now and then, it's just playing with fire. Because I've sworn not to (it's been 20 years) there is a huge mental hurdle I would have to make just to have one simple puff. Putting the obstacle of "never ever again" is a no nonsense approach to controlling additions.
In the case of addiction, I think clever people have a tougher time because they come up with clever ways to hide their issues and clever excuses they give themselves. My brother, who is very smart, quit smoking, but has now been on the nicotine patch (the biggest one) for 8 years. His reasoning? Weight control. Is that a valid reason, or just an excuse to get his drug of choice?
In my book, "none" is the most straightforward, honest, and easily defined way to quit an addictive behavior.
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You made a mistake and you are doing what you can to make it right, anyone who doesn't think that is ok, is a dipshit.
As you know, most of the knockers don't have anything to begin with , or if they do, they know they are gutless , so they just sit around, and mouth tough guy words.
It's a hard hit, but you will be ok . My weakness was alcohol, all my "buddies" would help me get drunk, then try to rob me. A few times it worked, I avoid those people like they have the plague now. I also never drink or gamble any more , it makes me become someone I don't like. Good luck to you
But, but... so many said it was a close match.
You know, earlier I said that this was almost inevitable. I said that because, as some of you may remember, during the run up before our match JB was woofing that he wanted to double the bet. That he would cover all side action at the venue. That he hoped to get down for $35,000.
Of course when we both got to the table and I told him I wanted to bet another $10,000, he demurred. He also didn't take a single rail bet. So IMO, this desire to "take it all on," so to speak, as been percolating in the depths of his psyche for years. Subconsciously, he's been dying to correct backing down after all his braggadocio, show everyone he can roll high, and light the fuse.
This was the culmination. He finally got to light the fuse. And he went off like a skyrocket.
Lou Figueroa
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since when does he owe us the details?
while he certainly made the whole ordeal public, he really only owes details to the ones he's indebted too...'
while he certainly made the whole ordeal public, he really only owes details to the ones he's indebted too...'
I see that you're still in his head. You would know more than any of us in regards to his behavior and I think the match you had with him got to him. It had a long lasting effect and this sauna garage probably messed with his thinking. He doesn't thrive in uncomfortable situations like some people do.
He wanted to probably fit in the group and threw money out there that he shouldn't like he was some professional.
