Really? That's what you think?
I don't think you've responded to a single question or statement I've (or others) made. At least not in a way that's either logical or that addresses the issues. I'm not interested in your thoroughness or your patience. I'm interested in you replying to the issues.
About the only thing you're good at is "skirting the issue"
You think my responses are rude? Why? Because I ask you to back up your statements?
Here's how you back up your statements or reply to someones question:
"Perhaps you missed where I said it's been proven by me and my countless students in dozens of clinics and private lessons where my methods and techniques have shown them in a couple minutes an easy way to do something they've struggled with for decades."
So, just take my word for it. That seems to be what you want.
Before you come back with "I never said that" in case you can't figure it out, I'm PARAPHRASING.
Same as Bob was when you replied with "I never said any of that". It seems it's ok for you to paraphrase but God forbid, anyone else does it.
In reality, what you "never" do, is answer a question.
I know you fancy yourself James Bond but guess what, the stuff he does in the movies isn't real.
Pool is real. It's hard, very hard. Making claims such as "most league players improve 2 levels after just a 2 hour lesson with Matt" isn't real. So an APA 3 becomes a 5 in just 2 hours?
I hope you don't expect anyone to believe that. Nobody's that gullible.
Well, I'm done beating my head against the wall. Time I've wasted with you in this thread I probably could have increased my fargo rating 100+ points.
Yes, an APA 3 can become a 5 in a two-hour lesson and often does. For example, someone who can cut balls beautifully but really struggles with draw (or position play or you-name-it), which gets used so very often. Then they go out and win every match they play for weeks in a row until their league handicap is raised. Draw is something that should take minutes and not hours to correct IMHO, so we have time in a lesson for much more.
But you don't need to take my word for anything. I offer you a free two-hour lesson. I can drive the lesson agenda or you can or I can take the first hour and you can dictate the second--my hope is we'd patch up our differences and come to understand one another better.
Part of where I'm coming from on this thread is I don't like the "every stroke has to be done like X" teaching school--coming from non-teachers on this thread, so I'm not sure that's even a school.
If you're open to learning new things, you can get a lot from me in a lesson. You are likewise an experienced, skilled player and I bet I can learn from you, too. How about it? What do you have to lose except some time? And I love teaching whether free or paid. We can even not do swoop and just let me work with you on stance, aim and stroke--even though you don't need help there, perhaps--and you'll understand my methods better.
Regarding backing up swoop statements, I do see your point. Honestly, I often hesitate to answer even direct questions at AZ because some people are pretty vicious, looking to entrap me. I don't get that vibe from you, so let me put some things down here, all in one place for you:
1) Swooping IMHO doesn't give extra english, it gives better cue ball control--don't confuse me with others who say it gives magic juice! That's not me. I get it--those guys could make anyone angry.
2) Fran Crimi mentioned a possible center ball hit/double hit, think about it, you get extra cue ball down-the-line shot control if so--the cue ball would logically go down the shot line further, with less deflection--so good, it might be an illegal stroke--have you read her posts here?
3) I teach straight stroke aim to most students--if you miss a shot in practice using the vertical axis, assess whether you overcut or undercut, and reset the shot for practice. COMMIT to a straight stroke so you can learn cut aim better.
4) However, what top players are good at is varying from a straight stroke whether consciously, subconsciously or both, to make good things happen--the points below come into focus, therefore...
5) Mosconi, Greenleaf, etc. can IMHO be seen swooping, Hal Houle taught it some, etc. -- it goes way back (IMHO or In My Humble Opinion means "let's not argue about hard-to-see video here)
6) Foreign players who dominated the sport for years in the USA gave swoop a "carabao" revival in more recent times (that is not up for argument, we're talking Hall-of-Fame-level folks who were asked "how are you putting that much english on the ball they way you aim and practice stroke"? then the articles and commentary followed until "backhand" and "carabao" entered the pool world in strong ways)
7) Every pro, including some truly top pros, who aim at base-of-center-ball on every stroke, must flick out a bit to impart english--I'm open if someone wants to guess how they impart english without a flick or twist/swoop! Think about it, a base-of-ball pro has to deviate to hit along the vertical axis, and does so and wins huge tournaments--so why is it disbelieved they deviate for sidespin or lack the ability to do so? And if they teach lessons, should they teach what they do or teach "just do straight strokes for everything, aim center ball for center ball"? That's do what I say, not do what I do hypocrisy, yes?
8) Pros who aim center-to-center or center-to-half-ball for cut shots are flicking balls in--you can see Earl Strickland do this sometimes, get down on a cut on the line between centers but cut the ball in with a slight stroke deviation--CJ Wiley can be seen on some of his instruction videos running racks while calling "center-to-center" or "center-to-half" before each shot, etc. By the way, aligning center-to-center then reaching for the cut applies outside english--which can counteract throw--right? Of course it can.
My point in the old Earl quote I posted was that he and others have said something like "I spin most shots in, beginners who can't do this should stick to straight strokes"--we can detail some of this over a table in a free lesson--everyone I show this to thinks its interesting even if they disagree/don't use the technique afterward--it's simple to show you in person or over a Skype how this technique works and how an amateur can learn it rather fast...
9) I usually talk to pro friends about other things, but Kennedy and Esposito agreed they AND many of their colleagues will offset for english, but backstroke on a slight curve to point back at center cue ball with their cue tip, then flick out a slight curve again to impart english coming forward...
Are you willing to clear the air with me going forward? I really hope so. I came to some beautiful realizations that helped my students because I humbly realize I always have more to learn about our beautiful game.
And I "get it", strong players who do straight strokes only don't want to hear anything else, but will you be more open or more closed going forward from today?
I apologize for my length--but you asked me to backup my assertions.
And as nicely as I can, I sincerely ask you to consider me an honest person willing to discuss things with you--if you're open, I'll try to be more open, too.
Thanks.