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01-30-2019, 08:15 AM

They didn't discuss the rules at first, then anything goes. Pay the man and then discuss some rules if you don't like what you got. Or don't pay and be a nit. This is my opinion.


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01-30-2019, 08:31 AM

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First break, Russian Kenny and DD/Roy arguing over the rules. Kenny broke, the 10b and cue ball dropped.

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Interesting. Why did that guy rake the balls at the end of the match?
  
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01-30-2019, 09:00 AM

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You're both wrong if you don't get something as basic as this straight before the game starts. Now you must make the rules and start over!
^^^ THIS... for 10 Ball, you have to know beforehand when the 10 ball
counts as a win... it could NEVER count on the break.
  
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01-30-2019, 09:15 AM

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Interesting. Why did that guy rake the balls at the end of the match?
"That guy" is Dima, one of DD's backers. He decided to rake the balls because DD was losing 14-2 in a race to 15 and he decided to concede the match to renegotiate the weight for a rematch the following night.
  
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01-30-2019, 11:03 AM

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^^^ THIS... for 10 Ball, you have to know beforehand when the 10 ball
counts as a win... it could NEVER count on the break.
Why not? Since when does it NOT count on the break?


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01-30-2019, 11:33 AM

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Since when does it NOT count on the break?
That's a good question, since it used to be the case that sinking the ten ball on the break was a win, but now the rule is that it's spotted. That's according to all of the rule sets I can find, BCA, WPA, et.al.
  
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01-30-2019, 11:36 AM

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That's a good question, since it used to be the case that sinking the ten ball on the break was a win, but now the rule is that it's spotted. That's according to all of the rule sets I can find, BCA, WPA, et.al.
One of the many, many reasons I no longer play rotation games seriously. I mean, how many times has ANYONE not a professional like Cory Duel, for instance, made the 10 on the break??


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01-30-2019, 11:49 AM

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"That guy" is Dima, one of DD's backers. He decided to rake the balls because DD was losing 14-2 in a race to 15 and he decided to concede the match to renegotiate the weight for a rematch the following night.
I see - I didn't watch the entire match. That explains why the guy didn't make much of an argument. He knew he had the nuts.
  
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01-30-2019, 11:52 AM

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I see - I didn't watch the entire match. That explains why the guy didn't make much of an argument. He knew he had the nuts.
It went 1-1.

DD won the first set something like 15-9.
  
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01-30-2019, 03:31 PM

If I jump into a ten ball ring game in a pool hall, I assume anything goes...
...if I make the ten on the break, I expect to get paid.

If someone wants to cite the latest rules of any organization, he should've declared before
a ball was struck..
Call shot , call shot with the option, ten doesn't count on the break or in certain pockets,
ten must be made in order.....these are Johnny come lately rules....say that's how you
want to play....I'll probably decide not to play......
....but I don't want to hear that the latest fad is the ONLY way to play.

Ten ball has been around a long time...traditionally played like nine ball.


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01-30-2019, 03:33 PM

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If I jump into a ten ball ring game in a pool hall, I assume anything goes...
...if I make the ten on the break, I expect to get paid.

If someone wants to cite the latest rules of any organization, he should've declared before
a ball was struck..
Call shot , call shot with the option, ten doesn't count on the break or in certain pockets,
ten must be made in order.....these are Johnny come lately rules....say that's how you
want to play....I'll probably decide not to play......
....but I don't want to hear that the latest fad is the ONLY way to play.

Ten ball has been around a long time...traditionally played like nine ball.
Ten ball on the break is spotted, that's how it's played these days. I don't know when it changed, but that's what all the rules I could find say.
  
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ring game - 01-30-2019, 05:54 PM

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"C": they're both idiots.
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One of the many, many reasons I no longer play rotation games seriously. I mean, how many times has ANYONE not a professional like Cory Duel, for instance, made the 10 on the break??
and Ive seen someone make it 4 times in a row in the racking corners.

I have played many Ring games from $500 to $5 and ive never played a 9 ball or 10 ball ring game where is counts in the racking corners, I am the person who said it doesnt count and it was with a few friends and its my mistake not telling him before we started but I thought they knew that was the way we always played it.


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and Ive seen someone make it 4 times in a row in the racking corners.

I have played many Ring games from $500 to $5 and ive never played a 9 ball or 10 ball ring game where is counts in the racking corners, I am the person who said it doesnt count and it was with a few friends and its my mistake not telling him before we started but I thought they knew that was the way we always played it.
Sounds like bar rules to me, meaning, whatever rules you feel like until someone objects.
  
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01-31-2019, 07:09 AM

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and Ive seen someone make it 4 times in a row in the racking corners.

I have played many Ring games from $500 to $5 and ive never played a 9 ball or 10 ball ring game where is counts in the racking corners, I am the person who said it doesnt count and it was with a few friends and its my mistake not telling him before we started but I thought they knew that was the way we always played it.
I've never even HEARD of a ring game where the money ball on the break does not count. Tournament play, one on one, yes. But never in a ring game. 58 years.


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01-31-2019, 11:46 AM

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Why not? Since when does it NOT count on the break?
As jviss said, rules are now different for 10 ball.. sometimes it won't count
on the break, it gets spotted. It's not 9 ball rules with an extra ball.
I've seen tournaments where it counts on the break only in the sides or
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