When testing gets more widespread those numbers will grow quick. Real quick.FWIW, the infection rate is 3.07 per 10,000.
Meaning,in a group of 10,000.......3 people will be infected.
You’ve drank the Koolaid.........
Bought the media hype.
People are looking at numbers without putting them in the proper context which leads to this type of wrong reasoning. Like did you know that the total cases are only .03% of the US population of 327,000,000. The percent of those with the flu is higher.
Very good explanation. I really feel sorry for those living in denial.The % with the flue are stable and likely dropping with the advent of warmer weather.
The % with CV are doubling every 2-4 days. 0.03% today, 0.06% Sunday, 0.12% Wed, 0.24% Friday, 0.5% next Sunday. Sooner or later, that becomes "a L O T of people".
The "lockdown" is not intended to prevent 40%-60% of our people from ever getting the disease, the lockdown is to prevent 40% of our people from showing up in the Emergency room in April 2020. With a goodly lockdown, we can stretch the people showing up at the hospital out over maybe 2 years instead of 1 month. The lockdown is to save the (woefully inadequate, and excessively expensive) hospital system from collapse.
Here's a very brief synopsis of the benefits to small business. The main point for pool halls is forgivable loans to cover rent and payroll. It will probably take months for banks to administer.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-what-the-historic-2-trillion-coronavirus-stimulus-package-will-do-to-help-small-businesses-2020-03-26
• A $350 billion forgivable loan program designed to ensure that small businesses do not lay off employees
• A 50% refundable payroll tax credit on worker wages will further incentivize businesses, including ones with fewer than 500 employees, to retain workers
• Looser net operating loss-reduction rules that will allow businesses to offset more
• A delay in employer-side payroll taxes for Social Security until 2021 and 2022
• Sole proprietors and other self-employed workers could be eligible for the expanded unemployment-insurance benefits the bill provides
• A portion of the $425 billion in funds appropriated for the Federal Reserve’s credit facilities will target small businesses
How does the $350 billion small-business loan program work?
The Small Business Administration, under the stimulus package, will oversee the Paycheck Protection Program, which will distribute $350 billion to small businesses that can be partially forgiven if the companies meet certain requirements. The loans will be available to companies with 500 or fewer employees.
“The SBA loans strike a balance between loans on favorable terms and grants by providing forgiveness to firms that use loaned funds for payroll, rent, mortgage interest, and utility payments,” said Garrett Watson, senior policy analyst at the Tax Foundation, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank.
This ensures that the firms “have skin in the game” while also giving businesses a better chance at surviving the pandemic, he said.
Loans will be administered by banks and other lenders, which American Enterprise Institute resident scholar Stan Veuger said “will hopefully speed up the process.”
Businesses can receive loans up to $10 million, based on how much the company paid its employees between Jan. 1 and Feb. 29. The loans will carry an interest rate up to 4%. The bill provides for an expedited origination process.
If the business uses the loan funds for the approved purposes and maintains the average size of its full-time workforce based on when it received the loan, the principal of the loan will be forgiven, meaning the company will only need to pay back the interest accrued.
Hope you make it sir. How close are you San Fran? Hope not too close.About putting numbers in context.....
https://www.everydaysociologyblog.com/2017/10/interpreting-numbers-in-context.html
Well said, my friend.
I liked and participated in your poll and the ensuing discussion was both civil and enlightening.
You've hit the nail on the head here, for it is at the grassroots level where loyalty and appreciation for pool are derived.
In America, it seems every kid plays baseball, even most of the girls. Hence, most grow up with an appreciation for just how difficult it is to hit a ball that is moving toward one. That's why so many grow up appreciating those who play major league baseball and watch them so often. The schools and little leagues offer the grassroots programs on which baseball is and has always been built in America, and that's why interest in the sport at the highest level has been so sustainable.
Pool lacks the grassroots programs. We all admire the efforts of those who run leagues and to those that have tried to introduce pool to the education system. We all applaud Mark Wilson for the shining example he set, and we all admire those who make league play so accessible to so many, but American kids are growing up without pool. That's what has to change.
Thanks for your kind thoughts, Robin. Be safe and be well, and let's hope we get to the other side of these very trying times.
I will never understand these owners way of thinking. They would rather have the place sit empty then to make the rent affordable for a small business. My home pool hall sat empty for years after it closed down back in around the year 2000, because the landlord kept increasing the rent every year, until the pool hall eventually ran out of business.
In the end, he could not afford the $2,000 per month rent, for the pool hall.
Well said, my friend.
I liked and participated in your poll and the ensuing discussion was both civil and enlightening.
You've hit the nail on the head here, for it is at the grassroots level where loyalty and appreciation for pool are derived.
In America, it seems every kid plays baseball, even most of the girls. Hence, most grow up with an appreciation for just how difficult it is to hit a ball that is moving toward one. That's why so many grow up appreciating those who play major league baseball and watch them so often. The schools and little leagues offer the grassroots programs on which baseball is and has always been built in America, and that's why interest in the sport at the highest level has been so sustainable.
Pool lacks the grassroots programs. We all admire the efforts of those who run leagues and to those that have tried to introduce pool to the education system. We all applaud Mark Wilson for the shining example he set, and we all admire those who make league play so accessible to so many, but American kids are growing up without pool. That's what has to change.
Thanks for your kind thoughts, Robin. Be safe and be well, and let's hope we get to the other side of these very trying times.
I've gotta believe it will.
People on my side of the fence might argue that even without professional baseball, if it went away altogether, children and men/women all the way through college level would still continue to play and enjoy the game.
The same can be said about professional pool. It does not have to exist for masses of people to still play and enjoy the game.
It's just me and my thinking, but I'd be okay if ALL professional sports would just "go away". YMMV.
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Here's a very brief synopsis of the benefits to small business. The main point for pool halls is forgivable loans to cover rent and payroll. It will probably take months for banks to administer.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-what-the-historic-2-trillion-coronavirus-stimulus-package-will-do-to-help-small-businesses-2020-03-26
• A $350 billion forgivable loan program designed to ensure that small businesses do not lay off employees
• A 50% refundable payroll tax credit on worker wages will further incentivize businesses, including ones with fewer than 500 employees, to retain workers
• Looser net operating loss-reduction rules that will allow businesses to offset more
• A delay in employer-side payroll taxes for Social Security until 2021 and 2022
• Sole proprietors and other self-employed workers could be eligible for the expanded unemployment-insurance benefits the bill provides
• A portion of the $425 billion in funds appropriated for the Federal Reserve’s credit facilities will target small businesses
How does the $350 billion small-business loan program work?
The Small Business Administration, under the stimulus package, will oversee the Paycheck Protection Program, which will distribute $350 billion to small businesses that can be partially forgiven if the companies meet certain requirements. The loans will be available to companies with 500 or fewer employees.
“The SBA loans strike a balance between loans on favorable terms and grants by providing forgiveness to firms that use loaned funds for payroll, rent, mortgage interest, and utility payments,” said Garrett Watson, senior policy analyst at the Tax Foundation, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank.
This ensures that the firms “have skin in the game” while also giving businesses a better chance at surviving the pandemic, he said.
Loans will be administered by banks and other lenders, which American Enterprise Institute resident scholar Stan Veuger said “will hopefully speed up the process.”
Businesses can receive loans up to $10 million, based on how much the company paid its employees between Jan. 1 and Feb. 29. The loans will carry an interest rate up to 4%. The bill provides for an expedited origination process.
If the business uses the loan funds for the approved purposes and maintains the average size of its full-time workforce based on when it received the loan, the principal of the loan will be forgiven, meaning the company will only need to pay back the interest accrued.
This was also said in 2009 after we bailed out the banks and were considering big stimulation.
I think WW2, the interstate highway system, Social Security, Medicare, Income Taxes,...
To test out our 1955-1965 military advancements.
The teacher unions and NEA did not help
This fall squarely on the backs of republicans.
But, to be fair, the rehabilitation in the 1970-1980s did not work so well, either.
This is a congressional problem, for 50 years, congress raided SS funds to pay for other government "stuff". They knew all along that they would end up where we are today (lacking Corona virus situation.)
The alternative is 70% of all (A L L) businesses close and 70%-85% unemployment.
Any business without 6-months of cash flow in a safe deposit box earning zero interest fill fail under the current situation. Approximately no business is in that situation.
We are faced with a situation where::
1) if we send people back to work to prevent a recession/depression, 1%-3% of the world population will simply die (D I E). {This may be a dramatic underestimation}
2) If we let the economic situation (idle factories, shelter at home) persist without doing anything, the Great Depression will look like a minor hick up in world GDP.
3) On the other hand, if we mortgage our future, we might be back on a level keel in a decade.
So, you get to pick door #1, door #2, or door #3.
I'll take door #1.
SS, income tax, Medicare are NOT examples of successful gov't programs, but they have one thing in common, THEFT.
Blaming repubs for the prison sytem failures is a stretch, but I'd rather have the criminals locked up than roaming free to commit more crimes (the platform of the dems).
Back on topic, I think anything more than a month will cause a hit on the number of pool rooms.
This is really NPR crap.Unfortunately for us Bill Gates nailed it. We missed our window of opportunity to avoid these shutdowns that will last so long by not acting in January or February of this year.
The Republicans were large and in charge during this time and they get the full responsibility for not acting. It was and is much more serious than the flu and people lives and livelihoods
are on the line. There will be tons of bad debt and government entities are going to be laying people off which interrupts their time in service which will start them all over in many cases.
They also have participated in the raiding of the public programs to fund their exorbitant military budgets that remain uncut. A hate for SS and Medicare and the failsafes they provide isn't
going to justify the harm being done by a short sighted administration. Some people like knowing that they have a back up. One of the backups people are fond of is their healthcare and
right now our Republican brethren are attacking the ACA without a replacement plan. When you consider the subsidies given the Oil and Gas industry and the 1.5 trillion dollar tax cut and
now the billions we are going to be giving big business in this incentive how is it that we are not Socialists? Propping up rich folks businesses isn't Capitalism. If a business doesn't make sense it
should go away, if we are indeed in this together helping each other then we should do that and stop spewing hatred for each other based on an ideology that pits us against one another.
There is plenty of room for private enterprise to go to market around peoples fail safes that we could use right now. You could always stick up for your beliefs and deny your stimulus check.
Had they simply followed the Pandemic Handbook left for them to use. We wouldn't be in this kind of mess but its only the flu right?
Unfortunately for us Bill Gates nailed it. We missed our window of opportunity to avoid these shutdowns that will last so long by not acting in January or February of this year.
The Republicans were large and in charge during this time and they get the full responsibility for not acting. It was and is much more serious than the flu and people lives and livelihoods
are on the line. There will be tons of bad debt and government entities are going to be laying people off which interrupts their time in service which will start them all over in many cases.
They also have participated in the raiding of the public programs to fund their exorbitant military budgets that remain uncut. A hate for SS and Medicare and the failsafes they provide isn't
going to justify the harm being done by a short sighted administration. Some people like knowing that they have a back up. One of the backups people are fond of is their healthcare and
right now our Republican brethren are attacking the ACA without a replacement plan. When you consider the subsidies given the Oil and Gas industry and the 1.5 trillion dollar tax cut and
now the billions we are going to be giving big business in this incentive how is it that we are not Socialists? Propping up rich folks businesses isn't Capitalism. If a business doesn't make sense it
should go away, if we are indeed in this together helping each other then we should do that and stop spewing hatred for each other based on an ideology that pits us against one another.
There is plenty of room for private enterprise to go to market around peoples fail safes that we could use right now. You could always stick up for your beliefs and deny your stimulus check.
Had they simply followed the Pandemic Handbook left for them to use. We wouldn't be in this kind of mess but its only the flu right?
And if we start responding to your stupidity, this thread will be deleted also.
Unfortunately for us Bill Gates nailed it. We missed our window of opportunity to avoid these shutdowns that will last so long by not acting in January or February of this year.
The Republicans were large and in charge during this time and they get the full responsibility for not acting. It was and is much more serious than the flu and people lives and livelihoods
are on the line. There will be tons of bad debt and government entities are going to be laying people off which interrupts their time in service which will start them all over in many cases.
They also have participated in the raiding of the public programs to fund their exorbitant military budgets that remain uncut. A hate for SS and Medicare and the failsafes they provide isn't
going to justify the harm being done by a short sighted administration. Some people like knowing that they have a back up. One of the backups people are fond of is their healthcare and
right now our Republican brethren are attacking the ACA without a replacement plan. When you consider the subsidies given the Oil and Gas industry and the 1.5 trillion dollar tax cut and
now the billions we are going to be giving big business in this incentive how is it that we are not Socialists? Propping up rich folks businesses isn't Capitalism. If a business doesn't make sense it
should go away, if we are indeed in this together helping each other then we should do that and stop spewing hatred for each other based on an ideology that pits us against one another.
There is plenty of room for private enterprise to go to market around peoples fail safes that we could use right now. You could always stick up for your beliefs and deny your stimulus check.
Had they simply followed the Pandemic Handbook left for them to use. We wouldn't be in this kind of mess but its only the flu right?
...
The Republicans were large and in charge during this time and they get the full responsibility for not acting.
...
I'll take door #1.
SS, income tax, Medicare are NOT examples of successful gov't programs, but they have one thing in common, THEFT.
Blaming repubs for the prison sytem failures is a stretch, but I'd rather have the criminals locked up than roaming free to commit more crimes (the platform of the dems).
Back on topic, I think anything more than a month will cause a hit on the number of pool rooms.