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05-13-2019, 02:08 AM

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Yeah, watching his break when they called him at 420 I had no idea how he was going to miss. I assumed he must touch the cueball on a warmup stroke or something, commit some sort of careless foul. Made more sense that they had miscounted racks.
At least the run didn't end on some weird turn of the cue ball this time. It was just a missed shot to a head pocket with the cue ball near the foot spot and John jacked up over another ball.
  
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05-13-2019, 04:35 AM

Itís funny how there have been a few scoring errors, even with video and people watching. Itís almost to be expected at such high numbers. Which leads me to question if the older records had any miscounts.
  
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05-13-2019, 11:05 AM

nice 60fps recording though.
  
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05-13-2019, 11:45 AM

Here's a comparison of the percentage of balls pocketed in foot, side, and head pockets in John Schmidt's recent 421 run compared with his earlier 434 run.

Pockets -- Foot, Side, Head

Run of 434 -- 75%, 15%, 10%

Run of 421 -- 70%, 17%, 13%

Combined -- 73%, 16%, 11%
  
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05-13-2019, 12:02 PM

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Here's a comparison of the percentage of balls pocketed in foot, side, and head pockets in John Schmidt's recent 421 run compared with his earlier 434 run.

Pockets -- Foot, Side, Head

Run of 434 -- 75%, 15%, 10%

Run of 421 -- 70%, 17%, 13%

Combined -- 73%, 16%, 11%
Thatís about the same percentages that Jimmy Moore told me, decades ago.


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05-13-2019, 12:24 PM

What is hi-run record on 5 X 10 ???


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05-13-2019, 12:28 PM

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What is hi-run record on 5 X 10 ???
Pretty sure itís 420 by Babe Cranfield


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05-13-2019, 12:29 PM

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That’s about the same percentages that Jimmy Moore told me, decades ago.
Good to hear of the consistent results, pt. In his Play Your Best Straight Pool book, Phil Capelle reports these results from "over 2,000 shots by leading professionals" -- 77.6% head, 13.8% side, 8.6% foot. So in those two long runs of John's, he used the side and foot pockets just a little bit more than did the players in Phil's numbers.
  
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05-13-2019, 12:36 PM

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Pretty sure it’s 420 by Babe Cranfield
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Irving Crane set the exhibition record of 309 on a 10-footer in 1939. Mosconi tied it in 1945.

[Info from Mosconi's autobiography.]

But here is a list that includes an item about Babe Cranfield running 420 on a 10-footer: http://www.thehypertexts.com/Pool%20...igh%20runs.htm.
"Arthur "Babe" Cranfield, straight pool, 420 balls, in Syracuse on a 10' table, before a sizeable audience, per George Fels"
  
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05-14-2019, 06:06 PM

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Pretty sure itís 420 by Babe Cranfield
Yes, I know about Cranfield's 420 on a 10-footer. Have to wonder whether this is stronger than his run of 768 on a 9 footer.
  
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05-14-2019, 06:07 PM

I'm still predicting that John sets the record one of these days. Wish him luck.
  
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05-14-2019, 06:48 PM

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Yes, I know about Cranfield's 420 on a 10-footer. Have to wonder whether this is stronger than his run of 768 on a 9 footer.
So I assume Cranfield's run of 768 on a 9-foot table was not witnessed and documented? If so, it why is Mosconi's 526 considered as the record? I would say a run of 420 on a 10 footer is every bit as impressive as 768 on a 9-footer, assuming equivalent sized pockets on both.
  
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05-14-2019, 08:01 PM

all my respect to the past champions :

mosconi , euphemia and cranfield ...

john schmidts 464 is the undisputed world record on a 9 foot table .

because we all have seen it !!!
  
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05-14-2019, 08:19 PM

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So I assume Cranfield's run of 768 on a 9-foot table was not witnessed and documented? If so, it why is Mosconi's 526 considered as the record? I would say a run of 420 on a 10 footer is every bit as impressive as 768 on a 9-footer, assuming equivalent sized pockets on both.
The record is for an exhibition high run. It has to be announced. You have to allow the public to attend. You have to have an opponent. After the fact, there has to be documentation. Mosconi's 526 run had all of those. Cranfield's 768 was, evidently, a practice run in his home room. Eufemia's run (625) evidently did not have enough documentation to show that it satisfied the requirements.

Related to which, a bio in Pool & Billiard in 2005 states that Babe had more than 35 runs over 400. Strangely, the article does not mention the 420 on a 5x10.


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05-15-2019, 06:59 AM

you must have an opponent , didnt know that .
ive said euphemia because some years ago this run were in the guiness world record book .
if these are the rules for an official world record, then it never can be broken .
thanks mr jewitt .
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