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Need Help With Harvey Martin/ Bert Schrager -Apprentice/Cuemaker Tree - 05-02-2009, 12:13 PM

Need Help With Harvey Martin/ Bert Schrager -Apprentice/Cuemaker Tree

Would appreciate any help with information who apprentice under Harvey Martin and Bert Schrager to finish Martin/Schrager Cuemaker Tree see Sample below.

How much your cue can fetch depend not only on workmanship, but also their pedigree.

I gather the list below mentally, so if I am wrong please correct me... I'm awared that some cuemakers/apprentice might apprentice under other cuemakers!

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05-02-2009, 12:15 PM

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05-02-2009, 12:55 PM

Tad Kohara -> Fred Kohara, from father to son. I had no idea that Tad was an apprentice to someone. I just thought he bought equipment from someone. Then again, I don't really know that much about Tad Kohara, but would like to know more.
  
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05-02-2009, 04:40 PM

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Tad Kohara -> Fred Kohara, from father to son. I had no idea that Tad was an apprentice to someone. I just thought he bought equipment from someone. Then again, I don't really know that much about Tad Kohara, but would like to know more.
Mamono, Tad Kohara - was Influenced by Harvey Martin and a friend, The old TADs very similar to a Martin Cue. Question would be how much adviced or training did Tad get from H. Martin and over how many months or years?

Just as David P. Kersenbrock work with Bert Schrager, But for how many months or years?

Just as some source say Dave Barenbrugge - was Kersenbrock 3rd disciple [apprentice], But Dave only mention Dieckman in his Bio, in the "Blue Book of Pool Cue". At Dieckman for 2 years.

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05-02-2009, 09:56 PM

Brady Andreson apprenticed under Bert Schrager also, I believe.

I alos think that Mike Montalvo worked with Tim Padgett for a while.


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Jeff Carter - 05-02-2009, 10:05 PM

Jeff Carter was working for Bert when I was living in California in the early 80's.


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05-03-2009, 05:07 AM

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Brady Andreson apprenticed under Bert Schrager also, I believe.

I alos think that Mike Montalvo worked with Tim Padgett for a while.
Poolhustler, Not Friendly with the name Brady Anderson or Mike Montalvo can you enlighten me with a little Bio or more detail?

Here an updates. I thought there would be more input, but then it is the weekend.

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05-03-2009, 05:14 AM

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Need Help With Harvey Martin/ Bert Schrager -Apprentice/Cuemaker Tree

Would appreciate any help with information who apprentice under Harvey Martin and Bert Schrager to finish Martin/Schrager Cuemaker Tree see Sample below.

How much your cue can fetch depend not only on workmanship, but also their pedigree.

I gather the list below mentally, so if I am wrong please correct me... I'm awared that some cuemakers/apprentice might apprentice under other cuemakers!

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that is neat bob!!!
next to my name , add: "player to be named later"




  
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05-03-2009, 10:05 AM

Louie Ochoa from Osarah Custom Cues worked for Tim Padgett off and on for about 7 years also.

Brady Andreson (you misspelled his last name) works out of Thousand Oaks area in CA and strangely enough, no one has really heard of him. I don't know if he is a full time cue maker or not. He sells his cues through Alpha Cue.

Mike Montalvo is from Rancho Cucamonga?? area of CA and I believe is good friends with Ariel Carmeli.

Sorry, I'm lacking on details...


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05-03-2009, 10:53 AM

Poolhustler, Thank for the Correction and addition information.

Brent Thank. your apprentice will be added in due time - Keystone Beer right !!

Newer updated tree.

I realize some cuemaker apprentice under other cuemaker. Sample Ed Young apprentice or learn from Craig Peterson. Or that DPK work with four different shops [counting his own].


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05-03-2009, 12:36 PM

I just emailed Bert to see if he can remember them all. I'll update you once/if I hear back from him.

I worked with Bert in early 1977 for about 5-6 months doing inlay work for him before going back to school. It was a trip. Pat & Bert remain good friends.

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05-03-2009, 12:59 PM

Thank You 12squared! I be waiting for your Reply.
Do you want your name added to the tree?


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Do you want your name added to the tree?
No, but thanks for asking. I haven't touched wood since, other than playing with the cues.
  
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05-03-2009, 08:11 PM

Talked to Mike Montalvo today at Hardtimes, he never worked under Tim Padgett. He said he worked under Judd.

I collect Schragers and am good friends with Bert and Pat. I can call them if anything needs clarification. They are good people in my book!!

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05-04-2009, 04:54 AM

Russ and Dave I appreciate the information you guy are giving.

Dave I honor your request to not be put on the tree. But I think you should!

To all AZ member this Tree is free to use, but understand it still a work in progress and may not be 100% correct. Sample did Mike Lambros apprentice/ work with Bert Schrager when he was in Calif.?

The Cuemaker Tree is the Newness one


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