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Darren Appleton's view on Tips - agree or disagree??? - 07-08-2016, 03:10 PM

From Darren's Facebook page....





When a player of Darren's calibre speaks in absolutes, I always listen and try to learn, but this little exchange threw me for a loop.


"Unless u blessed with big stroke and lot of cue power everyone should be playing with a soft tip or super soft"


Now I always thought a soft tip took something off your stroke, and the harder the tip, the more power is transferred to the cue ball, but here it appears Darren disagrees.

What do you think of Darren's absolute view on tips?
And do you follow his advice?
  
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07-08-2016, 03:17 PM

I really think pro's opinion's don't carry any more weight than our opinions.

The reason I say this, is across the various pro's, they play with everything under the sun (especially before they were sponsored). From house cues, to Ginacues, to everything in between. Soft tips to hard tips.

With all those equipment differences, they can all do the same shots.
  
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07-08-2016, 03:23 PM

Disagree. One man's meat is another man's poison. Tip choice is highly personal.
Just because a pro makes a statement about something doesn't mean it should be etched in stone.


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07-08-2016, 03:32 PM

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07-08-2016, 03:38 PM

Disagree. Harder tip - more cue power

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07-08-2016, 04:06 PM

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Disagree. One man's meat is another man's poison. Tip choice is highly personal.
Just because a pro makes a statement about something doesn't mean it should be etched in stone.
Hit it on the head Tramp.


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07-08-2016, 04:19 PM

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Disagree. Harder tip - more cue power

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This is the crux of the matter.
The basic concept of the harder the tip, the more power. I found it interesting that Darren was suggesting the opposite.
  
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07-08-2016, 04:24 PM

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This is the crux of the matter.
The basic concept of the harder the tip, the more power. I found it interesting that Darren was suggesting the opposite.
SVB used to play with a Kamui Tan Medium. IDK what he plays with today but I doubt if it is a soft tip.

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07-08-2016, 05:01 PM

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Disagree. One man's meat is another man's poison. Tip choice is highly personal.
Just because a pro makes a statement about something doesn't mean it should be etched in stone.
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Something else I heard that sounded logical to me was,.. that pros generally play with a harder tip. Reason: Harder Tips play more consistant and require less maintenance.



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07-08-2016, 05:15 PM

If most or all pros agreed on cue makeup (weight & design) and tips, we would probably follow them! But most pros suggest that you find what works best for you. I enjoyed looking through the YouTube videos 'what's in your case' and the wide variety of equipment used! I have a medium tip on my main player and a soft tip on my backup cue. So, could say I'm covered either way.

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07-08-2016, 06:26 PM

nothing works for everyone were all different

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07-08-2016, 08:54 PM

He might just be talking about soft tips for the Revo shaft specifically.
  
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07-08-2016, 09:41 PM

I think his general point is that you would get more grip and spin with a soft tip therefore generally requiring less ofca stroke to get more or tge same cue ball action. That may or may not be true, but if if it was there would be other tradeoffs like feel, the speed at which the ball comes off the tip, consistency, maintenance, etc. That's why it really comes down to a personal choice. I guess I'm saying I see where Darren is coming from, but I don't think it's clear cut that any tip would be more forgiving or helpful to amatuers.

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07-08-2016, 11:36 PM

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SVB used to play with a Kamui Tan Medium. IDK what he plays with today but I doubt if it is a soft tip.

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07-09-2016, 02:50 AM

I don't know. When an elite pro makes a suggestion, which does not put money in his pocket, we should probably listen.
  
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