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Do you really think he wasn't watching and waiting for Vette to sign off before making the offer and then retracting it less than five minutes later?

Jaden

p.s. The original post did not include the offer, he edited that in later. It only said that first sentence. So he waited 7 minutes before retracting the offer...

Lol, post 1025 is unedited and I waited a good 20 minutes while he was still logged on before he finally lkgged off and then I went to bed.
 
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you sure you got that post number right?
Ooop 1025. I hate typing on phones.


Truth is Im too busy right now to mess with going back and forth, finding someone to post with, etc.


Its no big deal if I dont get the bet but Vette turned out to be a ***** and that was worth it alone.
 
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I'm sweating this in the Philippines right now. Please don't anyone post with me! Not now anyway. My buddy Dennis just got demolished by Shane so he won't be too happy when he returns. Does anyone know the payoffs for this tourney? I only see First and Second.

I'm busy playing poker here. Soft games everywhere! You just have to watch your back here. Kapeche
 
I hate commentary. One of the best things about the small amount of this tourney I have gotten to watch so far is the lack of pointless banter about how the commentator thinks the player will play shape and "how good is this guy playing right now!!!" meaningless verbal diarrhea.

Simply the sound of the break and the click of the balls as the players run out.

Some people do not enjoy commentary but those people are a very small minority. I actually enjoy hearing what the other commentators bring to the match. Each has their own style and each appeals to different types of people and there are some, like you who enjoy just watching the players play the game.

JoeyA

Yea. I hear you... but 93% of viewers like commentary(me also). Some commentators are bad, I admit. Commentary adds always something to match IMO. Even if they call shots wrong. Always chance you might learn something new or new point of view,

Knowledge can be gained very quickly by listening to the commentators. There are a few people who do not have the need or the want to gain knowledge by listening to commentators and I guess a few people know as much or more than the commentators and so they don't enjoy listening to what they already know.

Agreed 100%. I hit the mute button well over 80% of the time when there is commentary. Losing the sound of the balls clicking and the other game sounds is, more often than not, a price worth paying for the absence of commentary.

Only the handful of commentators that weigh a player's options before the most complex shots and also evaluate critical decisions after the fact add value for me.

Commentators, especially in pool are there to share information with all levels of viewers. Most commentary is well received by the majority of the viewers. A couple of you muckety-mucks are light years ahead of some of the commentators. :D j/k.

The truth is when I listen to commentators while I'm watching a pool match and the commentators are talking about subjects other than pool, my eyes kind of roll around in my head too. :grin:

When watching pool matches on live streams, I enjoy figuring out what the player is going to do, what they should do and I especially like hearing what the different commentators have to say about the different options the players have and which one they think is the best in this particular situation (shot). I find that the commentators, sometimes point out things that the players themselves, don't seem to realize at that point in time. Commentators don't feel the pressure of making a shot or missing a shot and often times point out things that the players aren't doing or seeing and it is because they aren't under that type of pressure.

When I sit in the booth, I enjoy sharing my perspectives with the viewing live stream audience and guessing what they might be more interested in hearing and on occasion giving them a surprise from time to time but I genuinely enjoy making sure that my co-commentator enjoys his time with me.

JoeyA
 
The prize breakdown is as follows:
Champion 30,000 USD
Runner-up 15,000 USD
3rd ~ 4th 7,500 USD
5th ~ 8th 5,000 USD
9th ~ 16th 3,000 USD
17th ~ 32nd 2,000 USD
33rd ~ 64th 1,500 USD
65th ~ 96th 500 USD (loser of 2nd round in the loser’s bracket of Stage 2)
TOTAL 200,000 USD

JoeyA
I'm sweating this in the Philippines right now. Please don't anyone post with me! Not now anyway. My buddy Dennis just got demolished by Shane so he won't be too happy when he returns. Does anyone know the payoffs for this tourney? I only see First and Second.

I'm busy playing poker here. Soft games everywhere! You just have to watch your back here. Kapeche
 
I'm trying to decide if I should go to bed or just stay up for the next few hours for the final day of the tournament. :D

Stu, you're missing some GREAT camera work by the production company.
I think they are getting better by the day.

JoeyA
 
If vette don't want it, We can post and bet the 1k.

I'm just now seeing this. Guy waits til 15 minutes after I make the offer and posts that he'll bet after I'm out for the day. I pm'd Jay and asked if we could get the logistics before the semis (which is highly unlikely because I'm about to sleep until at least 6:30) could we post with him.
 
Awesome!!
Excited to watch these final matches tomorrow.

I may be in the minority however I appreciate some bantar from the commentators during the match. Keeping my fingers crossed they provide this for the final matches. There's a wealth of knowledgeable proffesional pocket billiard players there who would make phenomenal commentators, play by play, color.

Anybody care to provide a synopsis of what happened to Mika Immonen? Did John Morra just run over him down 8-4?
 
A Four Way Showdown For Pool History

According to this, Big Ko is slight favorite to win whole thing.
Whoever wins will make history one way or another

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/12231-a-four-way-showdown-for-pool-history/

A Four Way Showdown For Pool History Ted Lerner - WPA Press Officer
Sep. 17, 2015
Photo Courtesy of Richard Walker
Photo Courtesy of Richard Walker
Ko Ping Chung, Ko Pin Yi, Shane Van Boening and Wu Jia Qing reach the final four at the 2015 World 9-ball Championship

(Doha, Qatar)--If you like your pool served up on a golden platter, with the very best in the sport battling it out for the ultimate prize, count yourself lucky because the 2015 World 9-ball Championship just delivered the goods.

With literally everything riding on the line at the Al Arabi Sports Club in Doha, four of the sport’s premiere players braved a marathon day of pool, fought their way through a minefield, and emerged into a final four on Friday that is about as rock solid as it gets in pool.

In one semi-final Ko Pin Yi of Taiwan will take on former World 9-ball champion Wu Jia Qing of China. In the other semi-final, Ko’s younger brother Ping Chung will match wits with the USA’s Shane Van Boening.

Both race to 11 semi-finals will be played simultaneously beginning at 1:30pm in Doha(GMT +3). The race to 13 final will begin at 5pm.

The story lines and possibilities of these two matchups, and the possible finals pairings,--especially with the very real chance of having two brothers face each other for the world crown-- have fans around the world lighting up social media with excitement. Wu, who was born and raised in Taiwan before moving to China in his early 20’s is the ex- wonder boy who, ten years ago, won the World 9-ball Championship at the age of just 16 years old. Ko, also 26 years old, was a child pool prodigy himself who finally captured his first world crown in February in the Philippines when he won the World 10-ball Championship. This is a matchup that fans have waited years to see.

Wu Jia QingAs prodigious as Ko is, his younger brother Pin Chung is said by some to be even better, if that were even possible. The 19 year old Pin Chung, who will be celebrating his 20th birthday on Friday, has played brilliantly all week, and is seemingly impervious to pressure. For his part Van Boening comes in playing the best pool of his career, and the man who carries the hopes of the USA firmly on his shoulders has an air of destiny swirling all around him. The American versus the young Taiwanese is a true clash of titans.

With their stellar play today, and throughout the tournament, it’s nearly impossible to choose among the four who would be a favorite to lift the trophy on Friday evening. But based on his level of competition today, and his overall rock solid play and demeanor, Ko Pin Yi, the older brother, might just get a slight nod from the bookmakers.

As the round of 32 began today at the Al Arabi, Ko first squared off in a true marquee match with the Philippines’ Carlo Biado. These two met in the finals of the World 10-ball seven months earlier with Ko squeaking past the Filipino at the wire. Biado was a serioius top ten favorite here in Doha but against Ko the match wasn’t even close. Ko was up 7-0 before Biado could get his cue unpacked and won in a rout, 11-4.

In his round of 16 match against the Philippines Warren Kiamco, Ko allowed the Filipino to get close late, but crossed the line when it counted, 11-9. In the semi-finals Ko was paired with rising Canadian John Morra. Morra had been playing marvelous pool all week and with some recent high finishes around the world, the Toronto native had the look of a man who could take his first title. Proof of this came in the round of 32 when Morra came back from 10-8 down against England’s Mark Gray to win 11-10. Then in the final 16 Morra stormed back from 8-4 down to bury Mika Immonen, 11-8.

Ko and Morra stayed even in the first half of the match, which looked like it was going to the wire. But Ko again turned on the afterburners and won seemingly with ease, 11-6, to grab his semis spot.

As usual Wu put in a brilliantly steady and workman like performance on his road to the final four. Employing his solid left handed stroke and masterful cue ball control, the Taiwan native first shut down last year’s runner up Albin Ouschan, 11-6. In the final 16 Wu battled back and forth with up and coming Chinese player Wang Can, before winning 11-9.

In the quarter finals Wu matched up with Singapore’s 19 year old Aloysius Yapp, who had played his way into being one of the surprises of the tournament. In the round of 32 Yapp, the current World Junior champion, had no issues with the Philippines’ Jeffrey Ingacio, winning 11-6. Yapp then barely got by another great young player, Greece’s Alexander Kazakis, 11-10.

Yapp admitted before his match with Wu that the Taiwanese was his pool idol. And the two had played numerous times over the years but Yapp had never won. And today was not the day that streak would change. The two stayed even in the first half of the match before Wu proved he had too much class, winning 11-7.

With his baby face and rail thin figure, the younger Ko could easily be mistaken for a shy school boy who couldn’t hurt a fly. On the pool table, however, Ko displays a fierceness that is practically unshakeable. Japan’s Yukio Akagariyama learned this as he went out to Ko in the round of 32, 11-9.

Shane Van BoeningIn the round of 16 the USA’s Mike Dechaine gave Ko a handful and very nearly took the match to a one rack decider. But when Dechaine missed a straight in 9-ball down 10-9, Ko had a spot in the quarterfinals. There he met up with surprise entry Wojciech Szewczyk of Poland. Szewczyk seemed exhausted from his previous two grinds and couldn’t keep up with the more talented Ko. The Taiwanese won easily, 11-5.

Ko’s semi-final against Van Boening has the makings of a classic. For while Ko offers a solid and steady immovable object, the American is clearly playing the best pool of his career. Van Boeing’s three matches today were veritable clinics in 9-ball pool as he dismantled a solid wall of talent, breaking perfectly and clearing tables with ease.

In the round of 32, the American first buried Spain’s Francisco Diaz Pizarro, 11-5. In the round of 16, Van Boening made short work of Taiwan’s Chang Yu Lung, beating the recently former world number 1, 11-4. Van Boening then headed to the TV table for what fans thought would be a showdown with the Philippines Dennis Orcollo. But Shane kept breaking and running, while Orcollo couldn’t find an opening. Van Boening thumped the Filipino, 11-1.

The win over Orcollo capped a breathtaking day for Van Boening, who’s looking to restore American pride to pool by becoming the first American player since Earl Strickland 13 years ago to win the World 9-ball Championship. A buoyant Van Boening is sure he has just the right formula to pull off his greatest ever triumph on Friday.

“I have a lot of confidence in myself right now,” Van Boening said. “I’ve really been working on my stroke and the break is working pretty well and that’s the key. I’ve been watching a lot of these guys and they are not really breaking well. They are making balls but they aren’t getting a shot on the 1-ball. I’m getting a shot on the 1-ball 80 to 90% of the time and I’m running out. That’s important.Hopefully some day I can win the world championship. This is my chance tomorrow.”

Semi-Finals 1:30PM(GMT+3)

Ko Pin Yi(TPE) vs. Wu Jia Qing(CHN
Ko Pin Chung(TPE) vs. Shane Van Boening(USA)

Finals at 5PM(GMT+3)



**The 2015 WPA World 9-ball Championship takes place at the Al Arabi Sports Club Sports Club in Doha, Qatar from September 7-18, 2015. The winner of the 2015 World 9-ball Championship will receive $30,000. The runner up will receive $15,000. The total prize fund is $200,000.

The players will be competing on Wiraka New Model Tables with Simonis 860 Cloth, Electric Blue Color and using Aramith Super Pro TV Balls.

The Qatar Billiard and Snooker Federation(QBSF), which is once again hosting and organizing the World 9-ball Championship, will be providing free live streaming of the entire tournament, in cooperation with Kozoom. Fans can watch the action live on the QBSF website at, http://live.qbsf.qa/. With all 14 tables streamed live, fans can select which table they want to watch and switch between tables at their convenience.

The WPA will be on hand in Doha throughout this year’s World 9-ball Championship providing up to the minute information, live scoring, photographs and in depth articles with insights and analysis from WPA Press Officer Ted Lerner.

Fans can interact with us through the WPA’s official Facebook Page for the event at this link;https://www.facebook.com/wpaworld9ballchampionship

The WPA is also on Twitter; @poolwpa

RESULTS QUARTERFINALS

Ko Pin Yi(TPE) 11 - 6 John Morra(CAN)
Wu Jia Qing(CHN) 11 – 7 Aloysius Yapp(SIN)


Ko Pin Chung(TPE) 11 - 5 Wojciech Szewczyk(POL)
Shane Van Boening(USA) 11 - 1 Dennis Orcollo(PHL)

RESULTS FINAL 16

Ko Pin Yi(TPE) 11 – 9 Warren Kiamco(PHL)
John Morra(CAN) 11 – 8 Mika Immonen(FIN)

Aloysius Yapp(SIN) 11-10 Alexander Kazakis(GRE)
Wu Jia Qing(CHN) 11 – 9 Wang Can(CHN)

Ko Pin Chung(TPE) 11 – 9 Mike Dechaine(USA
Wojciech Szewczyk(POL) 11 -10 David Alcaide(ESP)

Shane Van Boening(USA) 11 – 5 Chang Yu Lung(TPE)
Dennis Orcollo(PHL) 11 – 2 Darren Appleton(GBR)

RESULTS FINAL 32

Warren Kiamco(PHL) 11- 7 Jalal Yousef(VEN)
Ko Pin Yi(TPE) 11 – 4 Carlo Biado(PHL)
Mika Immonen(FIN) 11 - 9 Wu Kun Lin(TPE)
John Morra(CAN) 11 – 10 Mark Gray(GBR)
Aloysius Yapp(SIN) 11 – 6 Jeffrey Ignacio(PHL)
Alexander Kazakis(GRE) 11- 9 Lui Haitao(CHN)
Wang Can(CHN) 11 – 7 Ruslan Chinakov(RUS)
Wu Jia Qing(CHN) 11 – 6 Albin Ouschan(AUT)

Ko Pin Chung(TPE) 11 - 9 Yukio Akagariyama(JPN)
Mike Dechaine(USA) 11 – 10 Denis Grabe(EST)
David Alcaide(ESP) 11- 7 Toh Lian Han(SIN)
Wojciech Szewczyk(POL) 11 – 8 Liu Ching Chieh(TPE)
Chang Yu Lung(TPE) 11 - 4 Oliver Medenilla(PHL)
Shane Van Boening(USA) 11 – 5 Francisco Diaz Pizarro(ESP)
Dennis Orcollo(PHL) 11 – 7 Hunter Lombardo(USA)
Darren Appleton(GBR) 11 – 7 Nick Ekonomopoulos(GRE)
 
I'm just now seeing this. Guy waits til 15 minutes after I make the offer and posts that he'll bet after I'm out for the day. I pm'd Jay and asked if we could get the logistics before the semis (which is highly unlikely because I'm about to sleep until at least 6:30) could we post with him.

Man you are something else. Dont try to act like you are just seeing this because you posted right after I made you an offer. I can click on your name to view your profile and it tells me what you are doing. For 20 minutes after I made the offer you kept going back and forth between viewing the main forum and viewing this thread. I waited and then posted that you need to confirm, you looked, and then you instantly logged off. But you are just seeing this huh?:thumbup:

I had to click on the website you advertise to get a glimps of who I am dealing with. I suspect you might be the guy in the purple tie. Lol, a purple tie... do you know what a purple tie says about you? There are only two ties someone should wear my man... red or blue. Red indicates power and blue says people can trust you. But, since you are a lying coward purple fits you perfectly... Vette man.lol
 
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I hate commentary. One of the best things about the small amount of this tourney I have gotten to watch so far is the lack of pointless banter about how the commentator thinks the player will play shape and "how good is this guy playing right now!!!" meaningless verbal diarrhea.

Simply the sound of the break and the click of the balls as the players run out.

This might be the first time I have ever completely agreed with you! I too would much rather just hear the click of the balls than listen to some idiot babble. I've found myself shutting off (or at least muting) some great matches because I couldn't stand the commentary.
 
It would be good if the audio had two channels, so we could turn commentary off.

Better yet, offer multiple commentary options. I enjoy it when a pro commentates with good insights about shot difficulty, planning and so on.
 
I'm sweating this in the Philippines right now. Please don't anyone post with me! Not now anyway. My buddy Dennis just got demolished by Shane so he won't be too happy when he returns. Does anyone know the payoffs for this tourney? I only see First and Second.

I'm busy playing poker here. Soft games everywhere! You just have to watch your back here. Kapeche


I'm sweating this in the Philippines right now. Please don't anyone post with me! Not now anyway. My buddy Dennis just got demolished by Shane so he won't be too happy when he returns. Does anyone know the payoffs for this tourney? I only see First and Second.

I'm busy playing poker here. Soft games everywhere! You just have to watch your back here. Kapeche

Hi Jay,

I was waiting for you to comment about the match since you are close to Dennis and SVB and I found out that you PM me your number. It's been a long time since I checked my messages on the forum. Does your cell number ending in 50 still exists. If not, can you PM me again your new number and maybe we can play bank and drive you around in Manila. I am just a class D player but I would love to play bank, one pocket.

Ok going back to the SVB 11 to 1 massacre of Dennis. Jay, I remember when you said that you would choose Dennis over SVB. I think I saw your comment here after the TAR match. You said that Dennis was feeling bad because he lost and you comforted him by saying that he got unlucky rolls or something like that. I am just curious if you still think Dennis is better than SVB. I saw a comment on the chat room that Dennis has not beaten SVB for two years. Is that true? I was looking for the head to head but I can't find any. Personally, I think Dennis mental readiness when he plays SVB was evident yesterday. He looked tentative and tight. I think mentally he feels intimated and defeated. I also think they are not good friends anymore after the incident in a tournament I forgot wherein Dennis pointed a finger to SVB about a foul call using a ball to measure the pocket. (Please refresh my memory, Jay!)

I compare what Dennis is going through similar to what Nadal is feeling when facing Djokovic. There was a time when Djokovic defeated Nadal 7 straight times. Nadal played differently with Djokovic than other players. He was extra careful in doing shots he would normally do. That's how I see it.

If you look at the first one ball shot Dennis missed yesterday against SVB, I don't see it going in because of a blocked ball but he still tried to shoot it. I don't know if it is a sign of nerves or desperation for a first shot of a first game. I just sympathized with Dennis. I was rooting for him since I am Filipino. I think it will take time if he can beat Shane again because of the mental factor and not because of skill.

It would be interesting to know the record of Dennis vs Darren and Shane, Darren vs Shane and Dennis. I usually hear news of Darren beating Shane, Shane beating Dennis but Dennis beating Darren? I am not sure of their records. I just think Darren usually beat Shane because Darren plays slower and probably it just stifles Shane a bit.

Hope you can comment Jay! Thanks!
 
Hi Jay,

I was waiting for you to comment about the match since you are close to Dennis and SVB and I found out that you PM me your number. It's been a long time since I checked my messages on the forum. Does your cell number ending in 50 still exists. If not, can you PM me again your new number and maybe we can play bank and drive you around in Manila. I am just a class D player but I would love to play bank, one pocket.

Ok going back to the SVB 11 to 1 massacre of Dennis. Jay, I remember when you said that you would choose Dennis over SVB. I think I saw your comment here after the TAR match. You said that Dennis was feeling bad because he lost and you comforted him by saying that he got unlucky rolls or something like that. I am just curious if you still think Dennis is better than SVB. I saw a comment on the chat room that Dennis has not beaten SVB for two years. Is that true? I was looking for the head to head but I can't find any. Personally, I think Dennis mental readiness when he plays SVB was evident yesterday. He looked tentative and tight. I think mentally he feels intimated and defeated. I also think they are not good friends anymore after the incident in a tournament I forgot wherein Dennis pointed a finger to SVB about a foul call using a ball to measure the pocket. (Please refresh my memory, Jay!)

I compare what Dennis is going through similar to what Nadal is feeling when facing Djokovic. There was a time when Djokovic defeated Nadal 7 straight times. Nadal played differently with Djokovic than other players. He was extra careful in doing shots he would normally do. That's how I see it.

If you look at the first one ball shot Dennis missed yesterday against SVB, I don't see it going in because of a blocked ball but he still tried to shoot it. I don't know if it is a sign of nerves or desperation for a first shot of a first game. I just sympathized with Dennis. I was rooting for him since I am Filipino. I think it will take time if he can beat Shane again because of the mental factor and not because of skill.

It would be interesting to know the record of Dennis vs Darren and Shane, Darren vs Shane and Dennis. I usually hear news of Darren beating Shane, Shane beating Dennis but Dennis beating Darren? I am not sure of their records. I just think Darren usually beat Shane because Darren plays slower and probably it just stifles Shane a bit.

Hope you can comment Jay! Thanks!

PM sent. Shane has beaten Dennis a few times now in big matches (like the finals of the U.S. Open twice!) and that will definitely have a psychological effect on you.
 
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