10 ball rule at the Derby?

[measureman]

I was watching a 10 ball match on Billiards TV from the 2022 Derby (saw ya Stu)and a player called a cross side bank on the 10 and it double banked and went in the wrong pocket I thought it would spot but it was a loss of game.
Never heard of this rule before.
Is this standard in tournament play or just the derby?

 

[easy-e]

I was watching a 10 ball match on Billiards TV from the 2022 Derby (saw ya Stu)and a player called a cross side bank on the 10 and it double banked and went in the wrong pocket I thought it would spot but it was a loss of game.
Never heard of this rule before.
Is this standard in tournament play or just the derby?

Never heard that one. Doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

[measureman]

Never heard that one. Doesn't make sense to me at all.

Now I remember it was Miki that made the double bank and lost the game.

 

[L.S. Dennis]

It seems like these 'little' differences in rules for these games from venue to venue need to stop. Is it really that hard to get ONE set of rules for these games that everyone can understand? Oh well that's pool I guess...

 

[Cornerman]

I'm assuming that the offender assumed that spotting up the 10-ball was a waste of time, but as far as I know, it's not an automatic loss. 10-ball at the Derby is only on the Big Foot Challenge.

 

[iusedtoberich]

It had to be something else. Maybe the player forfeited. The DCC doesn't use any mickymouse rules on any of their events.

 

[measureman]

I'm assuming that the offender assumed that spotting up the 10-ball was a waste of time, but as far as I know, it's not an automatic loss. 10-ball at the Derby is only on the Big Foot Challenge.

The cue ball stopped in the jaws of the corner pocket and the game was over.
I think he was playing Alcaide.

 

[The_JV]

It had to be something else. Maybe the player forfeited. The DCC doesn't use any mickymouse rules on any of their events.

except no jump cues...

 

[sjm]

I was watching a 10 ball match on Billiards TV from the 2022 Derby (saw ya Stu)and a player called a cross side bank on the 10 and it double banked and went in the wrong pocket I thought it would spot but it was a loss of game.
Never heard of this rule before.
Is this standard in tournament play or just the derby?

10-ball at the Derby has been played Texas Express for years now. I've never heard a player call a shot at the Bigfoot in those years. If a call was, in fact, made, it was unnecessary and, more generally, making the ten in the "wrong" pocket is not loss of game on anything but a bar table.

The explanation of what happened must lie elsewhere.

 

[KeithS66]

Mika won that game. David was up 6-5 and with Mika's cross bank he tied the match 6-6. Bigfoot Challenge does not play call shot.

 

[Cornerman]

The cue ball stopped in the jaws of the corner pocket and the game was over.
I think he was playing Alcaide.

They are using traditional 10-ball rules, no call shot. The 10-ball was legally pocketed, and the shooter won the game.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Here is the match in question, it's also on YouTube. Mesaureman, you remembered wrong Mika shit in the 10, and "won", not lost, the game. Its all wild, the way rotation should be played.

Shot is at 1:02:24 if the link does not take you right there (it should).

 

[iusedtoberich]

I don't know why the youtube link is not working at it has a box to put in codes?

Edit: I was having browser issues, and didn't see measurmean already linked the YouTube shot. Both his link and mine show a graphic that is not the match on my computer. But they show up fine on my phone...

 

[measureman]

It seems I was wrong and Miki won the game.
Well when you drink Bourbon and watch pool these things happen.
And I watched it on a 55" TV so I guess it was the booze.

 

[iusedtoberich]

How times changed... Efren played Mika an exhibition match I think right before the 2015 US Open. Efren won in a close set. He shit the 9 in the side pocket, and was cheering, and waving it in with his hands. (I forgot if it was the final game)

Mika shits in the 10 and apologies. I personally like the cheering a lot more. The apologizing by all the pros today takes the "fun" away from it. IMO

 

[iusedtoberich]

Here is the lucky shot in a youtube short. As fans, would we rather have that reaction by Efren, or an apologetic reaction?

 

[skogstokig]

Here is the lucky shot in a youtube short. As fans, would we rather have that reaction by Efren, or an apologetic reaction?

re the video title, clearly a fluke. as for your question i don't care for apologizes. doesn't take a university degree in statistics to understand that no, he's not luckier than anyone else, and the rolls (over time) are distributed equally

 

[Nostroke]

re the video title, clearly a fluke. as for your question i don't care for apologizes. doesn't take a university degree in statistics to understand that no, he's not luckier than anyone else, and the rolls (over time) are distributed equally

Dont tell Earl that

 

[maha]

sjm was there i guess he forgot.

 

[tomatoshooter]

re the video title, clearly a fluke. as for your question i don't care for apologizes. doesn't take a university degree in statistics to understand that no, he's not luckier than anyone else, and the rolls (over time) are distributed equally

That was pretty flukey. Usually with Efren, it's having a two way shot that seems to roll favorably but he knows it's possible. This is one of the few shots that I don't think he anticipated kicking at a 3 rail bank to combo the 9. I assume he wanted to bank the ball in the lower right corner so he would get safe if he missed? I don't see why kicking into the lower left corner was unavailable, this shot would have both balls moving closer to the 9.