107 Breaks & 6 Chances

[Straightpool_99]

As some may realize I had new Apple Green Simonis 860 put on the Gold Crown IV a couple of weeks ago. The last two days I have been doing nothing but racking and breaking racks of 9-Ball. After the first ten or so breaks with either nothing down, no shot, or both I decided to keep track.

The final numbers the last two days are 107 breaks and only 6 chances to run out. And yes, I realize Efren might have had maybe ten chances to run out. But that was it.

And to answer any questions:
1) Yes, I've had the dehumidifier running.
2) Yes, I've changed CB positions.
3) Yes, I've changed speeds.
4) Yes, I've changed CBs.
5) Yes, I am using a template.

This type of futility just ruins my enthusiasm for the game.

r/DCP

You're probably not looking for advice, but here is what I'd recommend for anyone who actually is:

1. There are two balls, whose position never change in a 9 ball rack, the 9 and the 1. Since the 9 shouldn't move much with a template rack, and trying to pocket it with the cueball is low percentage, that leaves one ball, over which you have complete control, the one.

2. You should have a good shot at the 1 a high percentage of the time, if you are any kind of 9 ball player at all. Sometimes you get kicked or blocked by an object ball, but every time you are breaking, you are practising controlling the one ball. You have thousands upon thousands of chances to perfect it.

3. In Europe, the federation is constantly changing break rules, with boxes 3 points rules and all sorts of stupid stuff. Every year, it's something different. But no matter how much they f around there is always the one thing, the one is in the same place in the rack. This means you get thousands of chances to perfect it.

4. If all else fails, and you can't make another ball, you can always try to pocket the one. Again, thousands of chances to perfect.

5. Your percentage of "runnable racks" is unaccaptably low, unless you are counting any difficulty in the layout as making the rack unrunnable.

6. There is one excuse, which is a worn out template. I had that come up when I was trying to beat the 10 ball ghost. 3 or 4 balls would roll together out of the rack and freezing to a rail almost every time. That only happens with broken templates.

7. If you seriously were trying to get more shots, I'd do the following: I'd take 50% off my break and focus only on the cue ball and the one ball. Once I had them on a string, I'd up my power until I could get a ball in the hole on the break and stay there. If I lost the cue ball or the one, I'd take power off again.

8. You won't get a runnable rack every time, it's the nature of the beast. You can however take control over the factors you can influence. As long as you are not doing that, you have no right to complain.

 

[Black-Balled]

It’s only two days


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Ya think so?

 

[Black-Balled]

That's simply not possible. If a 5 year old girl tossed the CB at a rack of 9 ball with her hands and then a pro took over, the pro would have plenty of opportunities. Way more than 6%.

Yes.

Without seeing pics of the post break shot/s allegations of 6% aren't believable.

 

[Fatboy]

Yes.

Without seeing pics of the post break shot/s allegations of 6% aren't believable.

I’d be thrilled to reach 6%

 

[Black-Balled]

I’d be thrilled to reach 6%

60/107 is 5.6%
There's hope for ya, young feller.

 

[Banger]

60/107 is 5.6%

I wasn't a math major, but I think your decimal point is in the wrong place.

 

[Black-Balled]

I wasn't a math major, but I think your decimal point is in the wrong place.

Do ya?!?!

 

[Black-Balled]

60/107 is 5.6%
There's hope for ya, young feller.

6/107 is 5.6%

 

[maha]

on the internet if you miss a decimal point or misspell something, and its still obvious what you meant. there will always be someone who doesn't get it and corrects you for no reason.

and its actually closer to 5.6074 rounded up to 5.6075. so to correct you again.

 

[straightline]

I put a free calculator on scientific and now it makes cool patterns.

 

[Black-Balled]

on the internet if you miss a decimal point or misspell something, and its still obvious what you meant. there will always be someone who doesn't get it and corrects you for no reason.

and its actually closer to 5.6074 rounded up to 5.6075. so to correct you again.

I got through calculus.

Only took 3 tries. And it was a C. AND it was Business Calc!

 

[DaveK]

The final numbers the last two days are 107 breaks and only 6 chances to run out.

Deja vue all over again. How many years ago did you last post bemoaning your inability to run out ? How many years ago did you first post same ?

Dave

 

[u12armresl]

Deja vue all over again. How many years ago did you last post bemoaning your inability to run out ? How many years ago did you first post same ?

Dave

Years? It's usually weeks or days.

 

[Black-Balled]

Deja vue all over again. How many years ago did you last post bemoaning your inability to run out ? How many years ago did you first post same ?

Dave

And without pictoral support... methinks the definition of viable first shot is different on his table.

 

[DaveK]

Years? It's usually weeks or days.

Just for giggles I searched, spent maybe 45 seconds on this ... here's one from 21 years ago !!!! "

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Thread 'One Ball On The 9-Ball Break'

Jun 22, 2004

seems like so much of the time when i break a rack of
9-ball the '1' ball will go downtable and end up on the short rail, and, as a result, i have no chance at running out.

anyway, was wondering if you posters out there can offer a solution to this situation? seems like this happens to me alot. and my apologies if this subject has been covered before.

DCP

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Dave

 

[u12armresl]

Just for giggles I searched, spent maybe 45 seconds on this ... here's one from 21 years ago !!!! "

D

Thread 'One Ball On The 9-Ball Break'

Jun 22, 2004

seems like so much of the time when i break a rack of
9-ball the '1' ball will go downtable and end up on the short rail, and, as a result, i have no chance at running out.

anyway, was wondering if you posters out there can offer a solution to this situation? seems like this happens to me alot. and my apologies if this subject has been covered before.

DCP

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• Replies: 5
• Forum: Main Forum

Dave

It's a rabbit hole. If you try to help the guy, he never listens. He name throws a lot, but if the names he throws out couldn't help him who on God's green earth can?

 

[David in FL]

First rack today with the older template - break and run. Wasn't easy though. Had to make an off-angle bank into the side on the 1B.

Three racks later another break and run.

Broke about 16-17 racks today and had one other chance to run out but hosed it up.

Three chances out of 16-17, I'll take it.

Would have played more but the Masters is getting close. Might break a few more racks after it's over.

Something's definitely off.

With a template rack and 9-ball, I would've said it's impossible to only make a ball on the break 6 times out of a hundred.

I've never really tracked it, but it feels like I should expect north of 50% on a 9' table and a lot better than that on a bar box...

 

[Icon of Sin]

Balls go in more one blue cloth.

 

[djg576]

Something's definitely off.

With a template rack and 9-ball, I would've said it's impossible to only make a ball on the break 6 times out of a hundred.

I've never really tracked it, but it feels like I should expect north of 50% on a 9' table and a lot better than that on a barDonnie Mills playing

Donnie Mills playing SVB race to 100 made same ball, same pocket 80- 90 times in a row. Don't remember exact #.

 

[David in FL]

Donnie Mills playing SVB race to 100 made same ball, same pocket 80- 90 times in a row. Don't remember exact #.

I believe it.

And I ain't any Danny Mills!