Yes, some players can't tell that. But good player should be able to detect that by testing out certain shot. You must be a pretty sporty player, I must say.
13mm or smaller?
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Yes, some players can't tell that. But good player should be able to detect that by testing out certain shot. You must be a pretty sporty player, I must say.
TheThaiger
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I don't think you need to be a good player to tell if one cue deflects more than another!
I have to agree with you on that. I also came across a few player telling me that low deflection shaft plays better. When we having a game, I pointed out certain shot can be played with english, and I found out some players playing with a LD shaft can't even execute a proper side with a LD shaft
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The size of your bridge hand will also play a part in what diameter is comfortable for you, particularly if you use a closed bridge.
Very true. The only disadvantages is that bigger tip can't reached the most bottom for maximum draw. But then why do we it that much for?
For maximum draw you don't hit the most bottom of the cueball. There should be a slight downward motion on the tip as it passes through the cue ball. " Low and level is for idiots" is what Mike Sigel told me when he was teaching me draw.
Someone asked why I hadn't asked this question before. Until I got the opportunity to watch professionals on the live streaming events, I was unaware of any type of a trend. I was basically just wondering what type of differences could I expect if I went to a smaller shaft, and if the professionals had a particular reason for using a particular diameter. I just happened to grow up playing with the 13mm cue shaft and was happy with it. Thanks for the replies and the help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=hbnxQWe_OTg&feature=endscreen
When you need it, you have to do it no matter how big or small your cue tip is.
Pangit
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The best shot makers in the WORLD play with 9-10mm conical tapered ash shafts....
How many "pool" players have crossed over and won a world championship in Snooker???
Talk to Darren Appleton, Darrel Peach, Allison Fischer, Kellie Fischer....et al
Crap ...Alex Pagulayan is a snooker player first...he has the "pause" he grew up in Canada.
TheThaiger
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Agreed, being able to cue a ball is all. I simply cannot believe the rubbish I read on here, when all anyone ever really needs is to be able to cue properly.
I don't see how anyone CAN learn to cue straight with all the superfluous guff the so-called experts stink the place out with.
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the mass at the tip end plays a large factor in squirt
so the weight of the ferrule and the tip size all add to tip end weight
ie you would expect less weight at the tip end of an 11mm tip shaft vs 13mm assumiong ferrule and tio weights were equal
Watch the video again. He is hitting the cueball with a downward motion.
BTW, I said low and LEVEL, not just low.
:scratchhead: level? No way you can place your cue dead level.
Or you mean like this ~~~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtZPz-_WoOA :shocked2:
Scott Lee, an instructor on AZ, and others if they choose to step forward, emphasize 'level'. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, LOL. I should know as I took a lesson from Scott. His theory was to hit as low as you can on every draw shot and he gave me drills to practice this, keeping the cue as level as possible.
You can draw your own conclusions.
Mike Massey Extreme Draw & Oyster Power Draw Analysis in HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GsRIPSTWfo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GsRIPSTWfo
Pangit
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I play with an 11.5mm conical taper simple maple shaft... Play's beautiful as far as I'm concerned. It's right in the middle of the road. It's got some backbone, yet it still flexes. And, I know it well.
I don't know about the "Pro-Taper" stuff...never tried it.
A 13mm tip seems like a Baseball bat to me. I'd rather play with a Snooker cue.
Just my "personal" preference.
Interesting post, this is one of my unanswered questions as well.
I played with a 12.25 or so Schon shaft for years, then switched to a Z2 (11.75), and now am working with a 314-2 (12.75). I like the more solid feeling of the 314-2, now the Z2 feels like a toothpick. But I did like the lower deflection and english adjustments with the Z2. A dilemma for me for sure, I can play well with both, but switching back and forth is definitely bad...
In general, don't most top players tend to stick to the "normal" range, 12.5 - 13mm or so? I didn't think there were a lot of players that were using Z shafts or similar small shafts, but maybe I'm wrong. I guess whatever works is fine, shouldn't matter. I often feel I would like something in between, around 12.2 - 12.5mm, but Mezz is the only standard option, maybe I'll try one of those. I'd love to take my 314-2 down to 12.5, but I think it can void the warranty and I'm not sure what the hit would be like, an expensive experiment if it doesn't work out...
Scott
I played with a 12.25 or so Schon shaft for years, then switched to a Z2 (11.75), and now am working with a 314-2 (12.75). I like the more solid feeling of the 314-2, now the Z2 feels like a toothpick. But I did like the lower deflection and english adjustments with the Z2. A dilemma for me for sure, I can play well with both, but switching back and forth is definitely bad...
In general, don't most top players tend to stick to the "normal" range, 12.5 - 13mm or so? I didn't think there were a lot of players that were using Z shafts or similar small shafts, but maybe I'm wrong. I guess whatever works is fine, shouldn't matter. I often feel I would like something in between, around 12.2 - 12.5mm, but Mezz is the only standard option, maybe I'll try one of those. I'd love to take my 314-2 down to 12.5, but I think it can void the warranty and I'm not sure what the hit would be like, an expensive experiment if it doesn't work out...
Scott