1970s-1980s Keith McCready vs SVB

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How would you match up Keith McCready in his prime against SVB now? Based on stories my father told me about back in the day, Keith almost never missed when he was playing well and basically torched everyone. Could one give the other any weight on a bar box or full sized table?
 
Somehustler said:
How would you match up Keith McCready in his prime against SVB now? Based on stories my father told me about back in the day, Keith almost never missed when he was playing well and basically torched everyone. Could one give the other any weight on a bar box or full sized table?
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No weight involved I would have Keith the favorite on the bar box and SVB on the 9'er.
 
I agree with Hemicudas. I'd have bet on Keith no matter what they played on. He was just TOO STRONG back in the day.
 
Keith's extra-curricular (SP?) activities would sometimes cause some inconsistancies. Keith would make spectacular shots, like bank the cue ball into a ball in the center of the table and make it. He played close to St. Louis Louis speed, usually winning but on occasion losing. He definitely would play anyone who rolled through southern California and wanted to play.
He did go to Shreveport in the late seventies and lost to Buddy getting the wild or call 7 (depends on whether you ask Buddy or Keith), but that was on Buddy's home turf and table that was set up for him. Brian Hashimoto staked Keith.
He was sure a feared player around here.

Danny
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
Keith's extra-curricular (SP?) activities would sometimes cause some inconsistancies. Keith would make spectacular shots, like bank the cue ball into a ball in the center of the table and make it. He played close to St. Louis Louis speed, usually winning but on occasion losing. He definitely would play anyone who rolled through southern California and wanted to play.
He did go to Shreveport in the late seventies and lost to Buddy getting the wild or call 7 (depends on whether you ask Buddy or Keith), but that was on Buddy's home turf and table that was set up for him. Brian Hashimoto staked Keith.
He was sure a feared player around here.

Danny
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I don't really like coming on these forums, but let's get down to reality.

I'm not going to take nothing away from Shane. He's a good player, but he would have been another statue playing me. I gave Kim Davenport the 7-ball, and he couldn't win no more, had to go to the 6-ball on my break, 7 on his. I give Morro Paez the 7, Ernesto Dominguez the 7-ball, 4-by-8 tables as well as the big tables.

The thing about was, when I had to play, there was always adjustments from table to table, but I gave it to them all on ANY TABLE THEY WANTED. Just pick your table, and that's just the way it was.

As far as Buddy and me playing, with me getting backed by Brian, that was my first road trip. I was 16 years old, a little green, but up and coming.

Just to let you know, there were pool players that had gears, and then there were pool players that had other gears, but they could not fade my gears. GEARS is what it is all about. It didn't matter back then what number ball somebody got because they couldn't fade the 6's, the 7's, the 8's, the 10's, and the 12's. And I guarantee you that I'd run more packages than any living human back then.
 
Sorry, Keith, I'm in total agreement with you. Buddy would have had his testicles handed to him on a silver platter if he'd of come to Hard Times in Costa Mesa when you were playing your best.

Danny
 
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Danny Kuykendal said:
Sorry, Keith, I'm in total agreement with you. Buddy would have had his testicles handed to him on a silver platter if he'd of come to Hard Times in Costa Mesa.

Danny
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Thank you very much, Danny. Back then on my home table at Hard Times in Newport Beach, that's where I did a lot of damage, as well as Nutty Nero's. That's where they all got the 7, and let's not forget 4th and Main where I busted every Mexican champion on earth, giving them the 7.
 
Keith McCready said:
I don't really like coming on these forums, but let's get down to reality.

I'm not going to take nothing away from Shane. He's a good player, but he would have been another statue playing me. I gave Kim Davenport the 7-ball, and he couldn't win no more, had to go to the 6-ball on my break, 7 on his. I give Morro Paez the 7, Ernesto Dominguez the 7-ball, 4-by-8 tables as well as the big tables.

The thing about was, when I had to play, there was always adjustments from table to table, but I gave it to them all on ANY TABLE THEY WANTED. Just pick your table, and that's just the way it was.

As far as Buddy and me playing, with me getting backed by Brian, that was my first road trip. I was 16 years old, a little green, but up and coming.

Just to let you know, there were pool players that had gears, and then there were pool players that had other gears, but they could not fade my gears. GEARS is what it is all about. It didn't matter back then what number ball somebody got because they couldn't fade the 6's, the 7's, the 8's, the 10's, and the 12's. And I guarantee you that I'd run more packages than any living human back then.
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Thanks Keith. Will we get to see you make a comeback? You were absolutely amazing in those days.
 
Don't forget Willie's in Midway City where you spotted King Kong the six on the bar box and toasted him.He wasn't called King Kong for nothin'.

Danny
 
Good to see ya Keith

Hey Keith, I hope to see you hit those speeds again. Hey ya never know, Efren seems to get better with age.lol. Anyway are you coming to the snookers ocean state "banner"tourney this year?
 
Evil,
Keith, do you remember when we got a ride to Pomona is a ratty orange toyota. You got knocked out of the tournament, it was televised. They wouldn't let you gamble on the practise tables because too many people were watching you. A bar owner that had closed for the tourny opened his bar for a private game. You gave Isaak the four ball and the breaks, we went home in a Rolls. (it was white w gold trim). Now that was entertainment.
Little Debbie
PS I heard he hung up his cue for years after that.
 
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Danny Kuykendal said:
Don't forget Willie's in Midway City where you spotted King Kong the six on the bar box and toasted him.He wasn't called King Kong for nothin'.

Danny
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That's right. Willie's was another good spot. King Kong got the 6-ball, but then after I busted him with the 6, I gave him the 5 and broke him again. We would flock at Willie's and then go down to Newport Beach.

Let's not forget about Billy Ray Suden. He got the 5 as well. And John Shuppett got the 6 with the big cueball. Where I did a lot of my damage was with the big cueball. There wasn't nobody alive the could beat me on a 4-by-8 with big cueball. If there was, who was it?

The thing about it, when I beat them with the big cueball, giving them all these spots, they would want the same spots on a 4-1/2 by 9 with a regulation cueball, which was really hard to do, but I tried it anyways, just to get action.

I outrun the nuts a few times, didn't win all the time, but I win some of the time. People don't realize spots change from different tables and different cueballs, but it was hard for me because they were so scared of me. I went ahead and would give them the same spot anyways. It was pretty hard to overcome.

Buddy Hall was the same way in his prime as I was in mine, having to give up weight in order to get played. Craig Stevens is another one that had gears.
 
Ltldebbie said:
Evil,
Keith, do you remember when we got a ride to Pomona is a ratty orange toyota. You got knocked out of the tournament, it was televised. They wouldn't let you gamble on the practise tables because too many people were watching you. A bar owner that had closed for the tourny opened his bar for a private game. You gave Isaak the four ball and we went home in a Rolls. (it was white w gold trim). Now that was entertainment.
Little Debbie
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Hi, Little Debbie! I was wondering what you'd been doing all these years.

Yeah, I remember that. That was funny!

There was a lot of things that you and I did that was funny. I'll never forget when you threw the chicken at me, at the apartment, with me and Don Percy. That was hilarious! :D
 
Keith McCready said:
I don't really like coming on these forums, but let's get down to reality.

I'm not going to take nothing away from Shane. He's a good player, but he would have been another statue playing me. I gave Kim Davenport the 7-ball, and he couldn't win no more, had to go to the 6-ball on my break, 7 on his. I give Morro Paez the 7, Ernesto Dominguez the 7-ball, 4-by-8 tables as well as the big tables.

The thing about was, when I had to play, there was always adjustments from table to table, but I gave it to them all on ANY TABLE THEY WANTED. Just pick your table, and that's just the way it was.

As far as Buddy and me playing, with me getting backed by Brian, that was my first road trip. I was 16 years old, a little green, but up and coming.

Just to let you know, there were pool players that had gears, and then there were pool players that had other gears, but they could not fade my gears. GEARS is what it is all about. It didn't matter back then what number ball somebody got because they couldn't fade the 6's, the 7's, the 8's, the 10's, and the 12's. And I guarantee you that I'd run more packages than any living human back then.
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I agree with you 100%. The packages is what serparated the players in those days..... Players today can't fade the heat today as back in those days.

Todays players play great and I enjoy their play and respect it, I promise and I understand that todays young get tired of us older guys ranting about Keith, Buddy,Louie, Wade, Searcy, Marino, Segal,Stevens, and many others.

There was no money in organized pool back then and all the players had to rely on, was each other. "I got a new Stake, come get me"! that is just the waay it was.

The thing is though, spots were not that big a deal when you went a fired at someone on their home table. It was all about fading heat because at some point the package was coming. Just as Keith stated. It was 6--8-9- or eve a 10 pack coming at you. You sat there in the chair and just had to learn to fade it and wait for your turn.

Could SVB fade the heat of Keith in 1980? I'm just not sure, but, he would ave come away a better player.
 
Based on what I've seen Keith would have snagged the cheese

BTW: Keith man, you gotta get back in the ring. Dust off that Madden and start kickin some ass


Jake
 
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bigskyjake said:
Based on what I've seen Keith would have snagged the cheese

BTW: Keith man, you gotta get back in the ring. Dust off that Madden and start kickin some ass


Jake
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Keith,
Jog my memo, How did you come out the time you played one of the locos and all he had to do was hit the object ball .lol??? LES
 
PIRANHA said:
Keith,
Jog my memo, How did you come out the time you played one of the locos and all he had to do was hit the object ball .lol??? LES
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JEEEEZUSS

that's a big ass spot
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
Keith's extra-curricular (SP?) activities would sometimes cause some inconsistancies. Keith would make spectacular shots, like bank the cue ball into a ball in the center of the table and make it. He played close to St. Louis Louis speed, usually winning but on occasion losing. He definitely would play anyone who rolled through southern California and wanted to play.
He did go to Shreveport in the late seventies and lost to Buddy getting the wild or call 7 (depends on whether you ask Buddy or Keith), but that was on Buddy's home turf and table that was set up for him. Brian Hashimoto staked Keith.
He was sure a feared player around here.

Danny
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Had the pleasure of watching KEITH and LOUIE play at least twice and maybe three times ( things from those days are a little foggy) in the late 70's and KIETH got there. Maybe I'm wrong but I think K was the better player.

Not seen SVB play but I've heard of him booking lot's of winners. He appears to be the real deal...
 
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