1Pocket: what would you do?

why bring all the balls up? its very similar to the shot I am advocating add a little spin hit the eight leave him in your red box and all is well. no need to trade fouls as far as I can see.
 
cuetable said:
I will trade 1 scratch each and bring the score to 6:5 first. The I will try another intentional scratch like either one of these (2 pages.) Aim to leave the CB in the red zone:

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Another ball comes up. The new score is 6:4. The layout look something like page 3.

Fun layout!
I agree,trading a scratch might be a good idea,im glad were on the same page with putting the cue ball in the square.
 
softshot said:
why bring all the balls up? its very similar to the shot I am advocating add a little spin hit the eight leave him in your red box and all is well. no need to trade fouls as far as I can see.

In general, I feel there would be more shot choices when my opponent needs more than one ball to win, especially when the table favors him :)
 
but now your on your third foul if you botch it and scratch game over I say take the less risk earlier rather than the huge risk later..

just playing my game
 
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Okay, now you're on two and I'm on two... :)

Don't worry, I'll pay your time.

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softshot said:
but now your on your third foul if you botch it and scratch game over I say take the less risk earlier rather than the huge risk later..

just playing my game

It's true, if he can freeze the CB perfectly to the 2 then it will be really tough for me.

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cuetable said:
Okay, 6 railer it is... :D

Glad you see things my way :cool:.

Honestly though, the 6 (or 7) railer is the best shot so far. You lay up on that 8 and your golden, and it's not a tough shot, much easier than two-railing at it, and if you miss the 8 you're still alive.

I just honestly hope that a good player will come in here and show me an even better shot.
 
AZE,

Referring to your initial shot: I was in a similar situation once and what the guy did to me was pretty smart because I could not get out of it. What he did was a foul, but I was stuck! He somehow drove the cue into the tit and stuck it there. He just kind of pinned it there. He took his foul in stride and I was just left there scratching my head and giving him a death-ray look.
 
i still like taking a foul & leaving the cueball where it is. I spot a ball & my opponent can only see the ball spotted & doesn't have much he can do with it.

If he takes a foul & spots another ball, then he needs 2 instead of 1.


I'll give the 6 rail shot a try when i get home, but i think i'll 3 rail the cue in the corner more often than not.

Or with my luck, i'd 5 rail kick the 4 ball in his hole & get him shape on the 8.
 
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I agree with Lenny I wouldn't shoot that shoot for fun, much less for money !
 
Some of you obviously aren't reading everything, or just aren't paying attention. I've explained why taking the scratch there isn't the best shot.
You don't have to take this shot for fun, or for money, but unless you can come up with a better shot, or try this shot and realize it's a good one, you won't have to wonder why you can't win those games :)

Prog8r, it's not that you had nothing to do, it's that you didn't know what to do. If you're playing 3-foul, just tap the ball again, now HE is frozen to the tit, and he's on one. Got it? If it's not 3-foul, and he is a better player than you (someone who could spot you a ball) that's the only time you're in trouble.
P.S; Prog8r, do I know you? I know you're a big fan of Laura's, lol, but do we know each other?
 
ok, i tried it & the shot works...although i nearly kicked the ball on the long rail in about 3-4 times till i dialed it in.
 
asn130 said:
ok, i tried it & the shot works...although i nearly kicked the ball on the long rail in about 3-4 times till i dialed it in.

See :D
Well what were the results like after you dialed it in? Are you hitting the 8 with any consistency? What is your success rate for just not selling out a shot with it?
 
Fast Lenny said:
Only problem is he could do the same thing back,foul for foul and then you lose the game on 3. ;)
Lenny,
I had the same thing in a match the other day, he had a ball in the jaws and needed one when he banked the the ball the cue ball corner hooked me.I took the foul he could see the edge of the spotted ball and went for it. Left me a bank that I made my 3 balls and he still has one in the jaws. He should have taken the foul, but who knows when I might made a ball.lol
 
AZE, Your shot is a viable intentional scratch, although I don't like the chance of hitting the shot a little too long and running into the 4 ball when coming into the 5th rail.

Obviously this is a bad situation and your options are not good and very limited......But here's one other option that I might very well choose, if the table has super tight pockets, rolls off a little, or I'm playing someone who doesn't shoot super straight......I'll roll out an inch to the right, freezing the cueball onto the rail, on the point of the pocket......I'm purposely leaving him the straight in shot on the 4, but I'm leaving him just enough room to see/make it, and he has to shoot exactly straight/parallel to/along the rail......On tight pockets, or with the slightest roll-off of the table, this shot is not automatic and could easily be missed, and, unlike the other options, the potential payoff is killer - if he misses, he leaves you the 8, with either the ball you just spotted or the 4 ball as your next shot, giving you a great chance to run 3 and out and win the game.

- Ghost
 
I agree, BUT...

asn130 said:
if you can't see the 2, then just touch the cue ball with your tip & MAKE DAMN SURE YOU DON'T MOVE IT.

Then you're spotting a ball & you're opponent doesn't have a shot.

for me it really depends on what we are playing for if we are hill/hill in a tournament or playing for significant dollars I take the intentional foul. If it is the first game of a tournament match and I think I am the favorite or we are playing for small stakes I might try a kick. More than likely I take a foul and make him kick or trade a foul, then I have to kick to avoid kicking while on two fouls:D :D

-don
 
I believe I would take the foul and expect him to also foul. I would like him needing two instead of one. On my next turn I would push out to hit the tit on my right and bring the cue ball back four or five inches back to the long rail and concede the four ball straight in and close to the rail. (eliminates the chance for another hook)

He will have to slow roll or power it in with draw and risk missing. The slow roll also has some degree of danger for him because of the distance and the position of the eight. This pretty much tells me that I will come back to the table. The six rail kick would be ok if he would let me try a few to let me get DIALED IN.
 
Most of my gambling matches we don't play 3 foul, so I would probably take the intentional and leave the ball corner hooked. If I were playing 3 foul, I think I would have to go with 1 Pocket Ghost's shot. It does leave a game winning shot for your opponent, but it's a tough shot made even tougher because of the risk of selling out the game to you.
 
AZE said:
Here's the shot;

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load up the inside (left) and fire at will. Looks crazy, I know, but the speed is easy to control, just hit it hard, good luck over-shooting it. If you hit it decent you're going to hit the 8 or just lay inside the box where you didn't sell out a shot, but you did scratch... you're giving yourself the best opportunity here.

WHAT THE?!?!?
 
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