1Pocket: what would you do?

Good shot Ghost, I like that, but it's really only good under those circumstances and with a player who isn't that good. That is a great alternative, if the table really rolls on that side I think I'll try it when it pops up.

We just had an AZ'er who doubted it give it a try, and he said the shot works. So there you go. I think all of you "What the !?!?"ers should really give it a try.

As far as being a shot you need to 'dial in' on (as if you don't need to dail on every shot), let's be real -- if you can't accurately kick multiple rails then you're in trouble when playing 1Pocket. And this shot has a huge margin of error.

So go, give it a try everyone, and let me know how it worked for you.

BTW, deadhawk, nice dog.
 
I tried it for a while today, I had better results just one rail kicking the 4 and hitting it sqaure in the face. I'll run this shot by the guru this weekend. On our pocket table not too many people have to like the 4 and cue frozen to the long rail.
 
Not arguing the shots case anymore. Try it, if you don't like it you don't like it. Just trying to help spread the game.
 
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This is all I can see. Who knows if the two ball paths are anywhere NEAR accurate, but considering where you are shooting from..

I think this is the only plausible aggressive shot that leaves any chance of getting safe. If you hit the shot thinner than expected, you might even knock the other ball away.

Either way, hit it hard enough not to leave it in front of your pocket. Emphasis here must be on the speed/angle/spin the CB will leave the OB with, in order to keep from traveling back down table. Whatever happens, you don't want to just GIVE a shot to your opponent.

This is an awful situation, and you'll lose here a good percentage of the time no matter what you do.

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I can't beat my kids playing one-pocket, but I'd have to just tap the cue ball and take a scratch. I expect my opponent will do the same thing. Hell, I might do it a couple times. After I get my opponent to go back a ball or two with me, then I'd try to think of something to get out of there. At least if I sell out, at that point, my opponent needs more than 1 ball to win.

But, again, I can't beat Mary Poppins playing that retarded game, so hope no one tries to glean any insight from anything that I might say about it.
 
I would have originally taken the intentional titty hook, and had my opponent get off the hill.

However, the 6 rail kick looks interesting. That shot comes up a lot in 3 Cushion Billiards. You guys saying wtf must never play 3-C, a very complimentary game to 1P.

Only bad thing about the 6 railer IF you execute it is you might lose a customer;)

Thanks for the thread, a lot of nice options presented.
 
AZE said:
Okay, now you're on two and I'm on two... :)

Don't worry, I'll pay your time.
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It looks like we have another AZB challenge situation. Are you keeping a list, Wei? I think we will have a table available in the Drinkwater room from time to time at DCC, not to mention the AZB room.

I like Wei's choice and I'd be happy to play it against your choice. Bring your stick.
 
PROG8R said:
... Referring to your initial shot: I was in a similar situation once and what the guy did to me was pretty smart because I could not get out of it. What he did was a foul, but I was stuck! He somehow drove the cue into the tit and stuck it there. He just kind of pinned it there. He took his foul in stride and I was just left there scratching my head and giving him a death-ray look.
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Trapping the ball with your stick like that is not a permitted shot. See Rule 6.6 on the onepocket.org website. Under World Standardized Rules, this would qualify as unsportsmanlike conduct, and should result in the loss of the rack.
 
Yes, yes, yes. This shot works. In fact Mosconi had a similar shot where his object ball was on the rail, at the diamond near where you have the 4 ball. After having shot some 3-cushion earlier, he said he felt comfortable with the kick. Sure enough he went 5 rails and kicked in the ball into the corner. AZE's shot is just an extension of Willie's shot.

The shot does not work as diagrammed though. You'll see that the diagrammed angle off the 5th rail closes, instead of widens. For it to work, the cue ball would have to contact the first rail closer to the pocket. Give it a try and many of you may change your mind about the merits of this shot.
 
I was at a poolhall this afternoon and tried the 6 rail kick shot. After well over a dozen attempts I was convinced that AZE was crazy. Later on I stopped in at another poolhall and decided to try it again on a different table (with better rails), and surprisingly it worked pretty well. So I guess I learned that the way the table plays makes a huge difference in that particular shot. Not sure I would shoot it during a game, even on the table where it was easy, but I really appreciate knowing it. Thanks for posting it for us.
 
AZE said:
Here's the shot;

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load up the inside (left) and fire at will. Looks crazy, I know, but the speed is easy to control, just hit it hard, good luck over-shooting it. If you hit it decent you're going to hit the 8 or just lay inside the box where you didn't sell out a shot, but you did scratch... you're giving yourself the best opportunity here.
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I tried it many times and hit it a few and almost always ended up safe (when I didn't scratch). However, I also scratched 3 - 4 times in the upper right hand corner, hitting it in difference places each time (combination of extreme inside english and speed).

However, the shot I thought of first, banking 2 rails into the 4, I hit almost every time. I did miss one or two, but had a much better percentage of hitting the 4 going two rails than I did with this shot. Unfortunately, I also scratched a few times on this shot in the opposite side. Coming off the rail first, hitting the 4 and going directly to the side.

For the money, I am going two (or three) rails to the 4.

I don't play one-pocket and am probably a C player, but that was my experience FWIW.
 
I tried it tonight and it was more like a 4-5 out of 10 shot going round the world.When i went one rail close to the side pocket i sometimes hit the 4 or missed the 4 and rolled to the 8,sometimes air balling and fouling but it was higher percentage for me,i would say 8 out of 10 times,i just would hit right before the side pocket with high english and a soft stroke,it worked well this way for me.
 
AZE said:
Here's the shot;

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load up the inside (left) and fire at will. Looks crazy, I know, but the speed is easy to control, just hit it hard, good luck over-shooting it. If you hit it decent you're going to hit the 8 or just lay inside the box where you didn't sell out a shot, but you did scratch... you're giving yourself the best opportunity here.
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I am not saying i am a champion player or anything just to get that out!!
I just played in the qlympics and lost to bartrum one round from the money and i have to say that this is the most ridiculous shot i have ever seen or even thought off in one pocket.
I am all for being creative but this is on the verge of insane. If you know anything about pool you can kick off the side rail and get the cue in almost the same spot with going 20 rails lol.
I also agree i think any sensible one pocket player would take a scratch and hope the opponent does the same just to get them out of the 1 hole.

I nearly threw up a little in my mouth when i saw this shot. It is to hard and to many things can go wrong( i.e hit the point of a pocket like the side or scratch or hit a ball on the wrong side) just to accomplish nothing.

The goal in one pocket is always do something productive and taking a scratch in which your opponent will also is about as productive as i gets there.
i would rather double bank the 8 and (as danny diliberto would say) let the high karate take effect and stay on the rail as opposed to kicking nineteen rails. WOW
I would like to play you some one pocket lol for a whole bunch :D :D
 
AZE said:
As far as being a shot you need to 'dial in' on (as if you don't need to dail on every shot), let's be real -- if you can't accurately kick multiple rails then you're in trouble when playing 1Pocket.
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So if I understand correctly you don't have enough confidence in your ability to kick one rail and avoid the scratch .. but at the same time your kicking ability is so well rounded that you can kick 6 rails and nail it when the pressure is on????

I'm confused
 
I've read all the posts and, I have to say, I like this strategy the most. You gotta get up pretty early in the morning to get one over on the ole barber. ;)


dabarbr said:
I believe I would take the foul and expect him to also foul. I would like him needing two instead of one. On my next turn I would push out to hit the tit on my right and bring the cue ball back four or five inches back to the long rail and concede the four ball straight in and close to the rail. (eliminates the chance for another hook)

He will have to slow roll or power it in with draw and risk missing. The slow roll also has some degree of danger for him because of the distance and the position of the eight. This pretty much tells me that I will come back to the table. The six rail kick would be ok if he would let me try a few to let me get DIALED IN.
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Cincyman, I'm no player at all. But why don't you just play the guy who showed me the shot? Come on down and bring that little bankroll.
I hope you're not talking and not ready for some action - because this is the right place to step up and get some.

As far as this being an insane shot, well while you're down here giving up all this action why don't you go ahead and bet me $100 a shot?
Tell you what, if I sell out a shot I'll pay $150, if I don't sell out you pay me $100, and if I hit the 8-ball (without selling out) you pay me $200? We've got 4 tables good for playing one-hole, we can even table hop just so I don't get too used to the rails.

The rails open if anyone on the planet wants that same bet.
 
AZE said:
Cincyman, I'm no player at all. But why don't you just play the guy who showed me the shot? Come on down and bring that little bankroll.
I hope you're not talking and not ready for some action - because this is the right place to step up and get some.

As far as this being an insane shot, well while you're down here giving up all this action why don't you go ahead and bet me $100 a shot?
Tell you what, if I sell out a shot I'll pay $150, if I don't sell out you pay me $100, and if I hit the 8-ball (without selling out) you pay me $200? We've got 4 tables good for playing one-hole, we can even table hop just so I don't get too used to the rails.

The rails open if anyone on the planet wants that same bet.
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Dude.... tone down on the testosterone.

if your only shot is a 6 rail kick. you have already lost. being good at pool is equal to being consistent at pool. I can consistently make my 1 rail kick 9 out of 10. if you can make your 6 rail kick 9 out of 10 times I'll pay off your mortgage.
 
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I shoot a Masse and go for the win, but hey, thats me, I would be pissed to be in that position from the beggining, and I sure dont want to give up the table, so Im going for it, if the balls were in a differnt position Id play it differnt, but as described, I shooting the Masse, and having some fun.


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