2 balls on head spot 1 pocket

[daniel]

Saw Shane play this shot & make it in his pocket straight in. Curious what stroke is employed to make this shot.the 2 balls have been spotted as opponent owed 2.

 

[lfigueroa]

Just a draw stroke with the CB set slightly off-center.

I think BJ has said you don't need the draw. Anywhos, there is also another alternative: setting the CB to the opposite side and three railing it while the first ball slides over towards the same pocket the back ball two rails towards.

Lou Figueroa

 

[alphadog]

Just a draw stroke with the CB set slightly off-center.

I think BJ has said you don't need the draw. Anywhos, there is also another alternative: setting the CB to the opposite side and three railing it while the first ball slides over towards the same pocket the back ball two rails towards.

Lou Figueroa

Lou I have never seen this from the "opposite" side? Is there video of it? Either ,as well as both balls , can be made depending on the hit and the table as SVB played it.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Saw Shane play this shot & make it in his pocket straight in. Curious what stroke is employed to make this shot.the 2 balls have been spotted as opponent owed 2.

Some draw and the "10 times fuller" aiming technique: aim the first OB 1/10 of the angle toward the pocket.

It's also possible the second ball will go in the same pocket, banked (with throw) two rails the long way - this might be what Lou's describing.

pj
chgo

P.S. Balls are spotted on the foot spot.

 

[lfigueroa]

Lou I have never seen this from the "opposite" side? Is there video of it? Either ,as well as both balls , can be made depending on the hit and the table as SVB played it.

There is but I’m not sure exactly where.

I first saw it like over 20 years ago on an Accu-Stats video featuring Cliff Joyner. I watched, practiced it, and shot it against Tom Wirth in the US One Pocket Open. It wasn’t that well known a shot and when I pulled the trigger Tom lept out of his chair. He pulled up short when he saw the back ball headed right to the pocket off the second rail. It’s a good shot if you need the last two : -)

Lou Figueroa

 

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[Bob Jewett]

Just a draw stroke with the CB set slightly off-center.

I think BJ has said you don't need the draw. ...

Draw does help the ball go through. The shot is in Willie Mosconi's "Winning Pocket Billiards" but set in a different and much easier position. I've known the shot since 1965 because I learned it from Willie.

... Anywhos, there is also another alternative: setting the CB to the opposite side and three railing it while the first ball slides over towards the same pocket the back ball two rails towards. ...

For those who don't follow written descriptions so well, here is that shot:

 

[Bob Jewett]

And here is a video with all three ways of playing the shot:

I prefer the simple draw version. If you can draw the cue ball straight back from the front ball the shot is going to be very close. All you need to know is how far to the side of the spot to place the cue ball. Experiment.

 

[Texas Carom Club]

Efren has a video on him showing youngsters how to make it.


Seem Jim the pilot make it at bogies, was the first I'd ever seen the shot

 

[lfigueroa]

You can also shoot a variation using the same principles if you’re left behind the balls and bank the first one.

I shot it on a guy once and he said: I’ve been playing 1pocket for 30 years and never knew that shot was there.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Bob Jewett]

You can also shoot a variation using the same principles if you’re left behind the balls and bank the first one.
...

Something like this?

 

[gregcantrall]

And here is a video with all three ways of playing the shot:

I prefer the simple draw version. If you can draw the cue ball straight back from the front ball the shot is going to be very close. All you need to know is how far to the side of the spot to place the cue ball. Experiment.

I just took your coaching and tried it. The first attempt with right hand was a complete failure because I over amped. Switched to the left and nice smooth stroke. The head ball went straight in. Darn you are a good coach!

 

[JoeyInCali]

Saw Efren make both balls in the same hole in two shots at Hard Times .
It was a prop bet . Way too easy for Efren

 

[alphadog]

And here is a video with all three ways of playing the shot:

I prefer the simple draw version. If you can draw the cue ball straight back from the front ball the shot is going to be very close. All you need to know is how far to the side of the spot to place the cue ball. Experiment.

YOU DA MAN

 

[alphadog]

Saw Efren make both balls in the same hole in two shots at Hard Times .
It was a prop bet . Way too easy for Efren

He made it look easy, it's not easy on most tables to pocket both. Make 1 and get the other "horseshoe" isn't too tough.

 

[Fatboy]

I’ve seen Artie make both, like they were hangers. I learned the draw head ball shot before I could draw my ball. It was the only 1P shot I knew for years. I didn’t start playing 1P soon enough(huge mistake in retrospect)

best
Fatboy

 

[fastone371]

And here is a video with all three ways of playing the shot:

I prefer the simple draw version. If you can draw the cue ball straight back from the front ball the shot is going to be very close. All you need to know is how far to the side of the spot to place the cue ball. Experiment.

What kind of a table is that? Looks like a 7' but not a Valley because of the aluminum trim around side pockets and the corner pockets look very tight.

 

[lfigueroa]

Something like this?

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Yes.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Bob Jewett]

What kind of a table is that? Looks like a 7' but not a Valley because of the aluminum trim around side pockets and the corner pockets look very tight.

It's a 9-foot GC-3. It had 4 1/4 pockets, more or less. The same table as this (5/4 Warning!):

Sadly, that pool hall -- Shoreline, Mountain View -- closed several years ago.

 

[Black-Balled]

P.S. Balls are spotted on the foot spot.

Tell um!