2007 Amway Women's World 9-Ball Championships

liekdi2588 said:
Group A:
1 Ga-Young Kim (KOR)
2 Akio Ohtani (JPN)
3 Pei-Chun Lin (TPE)(Q1)
Eylull Kibaroglu (TUR)
Sabina Dederding (SUI)
Hazel Cook (NZL)
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G. Y. Kim vs. A. Ohtani 5:4
G. Y. Kim vs. E.Kibaroglu 5:0
G. Y. Kim vs. S. Dederding 5:2
G. Y. Kim vs. H. Cook 5:1
G. Y. Kim vs. P. C. Lin 5:3
A. Ohtani vs. E.Kibaroglu 5:2
A. Ohtani vs. S. Dederding 5:2
A. Ohtani vs. H. Cook 5:3
A. Ohtani vs. P. C. Lin 0:5
E.Kibaroglu vs. vs. S. Dederding 4:5
E.Kibaroglu vs. H. Cook 5:1
E.Kibaroglu vs. P. C. Lin 1:5
S. Dederding vs. H. Cook 5:3
S. Dederding vs. P. C. Lin 3:5
H. Cook vs. P. C. Lin 3:5

Group B:
1 Ya-Ting Chan (TPE)(Q5)
2 Amit Rubilen (PHI)
3 Makiko Takagi (JPN)
Allison Fisher (GBR)
Kao Shu-Pin (TPE)
Janine Schwan (GER)
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A. Fisher vs. S. P. Kao 5:4
A. Fisher vs. M. Takagi 5:4
A. Fisher vs. J. Schwan 3:5
A. Fisher vs. A. Rubilen 3:5
A. Fisher vs. Y. T. Chan 1:5
S. P. Kao vs. M. Takagi 3:5
S. P. Kao vs. J. Schwan 4:5
S. P. Kao vs. A. Rubilen 4:5
S. P. Kao vs. Y. T. Chan 4:5
M. Takagi vs. J. Schwan 5:1
M. Takagi vs. A. Rubilen 5:3
M. Takagi vs. Y. T. Chan 2:5
J. Schwan vs. A. Rubilen 2:5
J. Schwan vs. Y. T. Chan 1:5
A. Rubilen vs. Y. T. Chan 5:4

Group C:
1 Yukiko Hamanishi (JPN)
2 Xiao-Ting Pan (CHN)
3 Hsiang-Ling Tan (TPE)(Q3)
Tiffany Nelson (USA)
Gerda Hofstatter (AUT)
Suet-Yee Kwan (MAL)
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Y. Hamanishi vs. X. T. Pan 5:4
Y. Hamanishi vs. T. Nelson 5:3
Y. Hamanishi vs. G. Hofstatter 5:2
Y. Hamanishi vs. S. Y. Kwan 5:1
Y. Hamanishi vs. H. L. Tan 5:3
X. T. Pan vs. T. Nelson 5:4
X. T. Pan vs. G. Hofstatter 5:0
X. T. Pan vs. S. Y. Kwan 5:2
X. T. Pan vs. H. L. Tan 5:3
T. Nelson vs. G. Hofstatter 3:5
T. Nelson vs. S. Y. Kwan 4:5
T. Nelson vs. H. L. Tan 5:4
G. Hofstatter vs. S. Y. Kwan 5:1
G. Hofstatter vs. H. L. Tan 0:5
S. Y. Kwan vs. H. L. Tan 3:5

Group D:
1 Kim White (USA)
2 Shu-Han Chang (TPE)
3 Yi-Yun Su (TPE)(Q6)
Akimi Kajitani (JPN)
Katrine Jensen (DEN)
Daniele Benz (GER)
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A. Kajitani vs. K. White 3:5
A. Kajitani vs. K. Jensen 5:3
A. Kajitani vs. D. Benz 5:2
A. Kajitani vs. H. S. Chang 2:5
A. Kajitani vs. I. Y. Su 4:5
K. White vs. K. Jensen 5:2
K. White vs. D. Benz :
K. White vs. H. S. Chang 5:1
K. White vs. I. Y. Su 5:3
K. Jensen vs. D. Benz 3 :5
K. Jensen vs. H. S. Chang 0:5
K. Jensen vs. I. Y. Su 4:5
D. Benz vs. H. S. Chang 0:5
D. Benz vs. I. Y. Su 4:5
H. S. Chang vs. I. Y. Su 5:1

Group E:
1 Jasmin Ouschan (AUT)
2 Kelly Fisher (GBR)
3 Wendy Jans (BEL)
Megan Minerich (USA)
Lyndall Hulley (AUS)
Chieh-Yu Chou (TPE)(Q2)
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J. Ouschan vs. M. Minerich 5:2
J. Ouschan vs. K. Fisher 5:4
J. Ouschan vs. W. Jans 3:5
J. Ouschan vs. L. Hulley :
J. Ouschan vs. C. Y. Chou 5:2
M. Minerich vs. K. Fisher 1 5
M. Minerich vs. W. Jans :
M. Minerich vs. L. Hulley 5:3
M. Minerich vs. C. Y. Chou 5:3
K. Fisher vs. W. Jans 5:0
K. Fisher vs. L. Hulley 5:0
K. Fisher vs. C. Y. Chou :
W. Jans vs. L. Hulley 5:2
W. Jans vs. C. Y. Chou 5:3
L. Hulley vs. C. Y. Chou 2:5

Group F:
1 Monica Webb (USA)
2 Yuan-Chun Lin (TPE)
3 Line Kjorsvik (NOR)
Charlotte Sorensen (DEN)
Denise Wilkinson (NZL)
Zeet Huey CHAI (SIN)(Q7)
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L. Kjorsvik vs. Y. C. Lin 1:5
L. Kjorsvik vs. M. Webb 5:4
L. Kjorsvik vs. C. Sorensen 5:2
L. Kjorsvik vs. D. Wilkinson 5:3
L. Kjorsvik vs. Chai Z. H. 4:5
Y. C. Lin vs. M. Webb 3:5
Y. C. Lin vs. C. Sorensen 5:4
Y. C. Lin vs. D. Wilkinson 5:1
Y. C. Lin vs. Chai Z. H. 5:3
M. Webb vs. C. Sorensen 5:3
M. Webb vs. D. Wilkinson 5:1
M. Webb vs. Chai Z. H. 5:1
C. Sorensen vs. D. Wilkinson 1:5
C. Sorensen vs. Chai Z. H. 5:2
D. Wilkinson vs. Chai Z. H. 5:3

Group G:
1 Pei-Chun Tsai (TPE)
2 Sung-Hyun Jung (KOR)
3 Diana Stateczny (GER)
Helena Thornfeldt (SWE)
Kyoko SONE (JPN)(Q4)
Maki IKEDA (JPN)(Q9)
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H. Thornfeldt vs. S. H. Jung 2:5
H. Thornfeldt vs. M. Ikeda 5:1
H. Thornfeldt vs. D. Stateczny 4:5
H. Thornfeldt vs. P. C. Tsai 3:5
H. Thornfeldt vs. K. Sone 0:5
S. H. Jung vs. M. Ikeda 2:5
S. H. Jung vs. D. Stateczny 5:4
S. H. Jung vs. P. C. Tsai 5:4
S. H. Jung vs. K. Sone 5:0
M. Ikeda vs. D. Stateczny 2:5
M. Ikeda vs. P. C. Tsai 2:5
M. Ikeda vs. K. Sone 4:5
D. Stateczny vs. P. C. Tsai 2:5
D. Stateczny vs. K. Sone 5:2
P. C. Tsai vs. K. Sone 5:4

Group H:
1 Shin-Mei Liu (TPE)
2 Hui-Shan Lai (TPE)(Q8)
Johanna Espinoza (VEN)
Naomi Williams (CAN)
Tamara Rademakers (NED)
Tammy Duff (RSA)
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S. M. Liu vs. N. Williams 5:0
S. M. Liu vs. J. Espinoza 5:2
S. M. Liu vs. T. Rademakers 5:1
S. M. Liu vs. T. Duff 5:4
S. M. Liu vs. H. S. Lai 5:3
N. Williams vs. T. Rademakers :
N. Williams vs. T. Duff 5:2
N. Williams vs. H. S. Lai 4:5
J. Espinoza vs. T. Rademakers 5:3
J. Espinoza vs. T. Duff 4:5
J. Espinoza vs. H. S. Lai 1:5
T. Rademakers vs. T. Duff 5:0
T. Rademakers vs. H. S. Lai 2:5
T. Duff vs. H. S. Lai 1:5
N. Williams vs. J. Espinoza 5:2

Thank you.
 
Last 24 (decided by drawing lots)

Ga-Young Kim (KOR)
Jasmin Ouschan (AUT) vs. Wendy Jans (BEL)

Ya-Ting Chan (TPE)
Amit Rubilen (PHI) vs. Diana Stateczny (GER)

Yukiko Hamanishi (JPN)
Yuan-Chun Lin (TPE) vs. Yi-Yun Su (TPE)

Kim White (USA)
Hui-Shan Lai (TPE) vs. Line Kjorsvik (NOR)

Kelly Fisher (GBR)
Shu-Han Chang (TPE) vs. Akio Ohtani (JPN)

Monica Webb (USA)
Xiao-Ting Pan (CHN) vs. Makiko Takagi (JPN)

Pei-Chun Tsai (TPE)
Sung-Hyun Jung (KOR) vs. Hsiang-Ling Tan (TPE)

Shin-Mei Liu (TPE)
Pei-Chun Lin (TPE) vs. Naomi Williams (CAN)
 
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sjm said:
Know where you're coming from, but there are sixteen foreign non-WPBA invitees to the pro event at the BCA Open every year, and they are, and always have been, the stars of Europe and Asia. When Jasmin Ouschan won the event last year, it broke a roughly ten year drought in which not even one of these even reached the TV round, although Hsin Mei Liu has come within a match of it twice.

I'll give credit where credit is due, as the internationals non-WPBA players are certaininly shining bright at this year's WPA Women's World championships, but any suggestion that the WPBA isn't the indisputable testing ground for champions is very premature.

Nonetheless, your comment that one's WPBA ranking doesn't factor in the fact that a few others may be counted among the best is dead on.

I think technically you are correct. Let's not forget that K.Fisher, Pan Xiao Ting, Kim Ga Young, and Monica Webb from the WPBA top 10 all made it through the group sessions

I just think that the competition at the top level of women's pool is increasing and the dominance by a couple players as in the past is going away.

In addition to the ones already in the WPBA we have seen other great play in the past couple days for the likes of Jasmin, W. Jans, C. Sorensen, A. Rubelin, and the host of other Asian players.

It's going to be fun to watch as things develop.

Allison is a great player and I love to watch her, but she has to be talking to herself on the plane ride home after being knocked out of the first two WPBA tournaments this year by Asian players and then going home early this week.
 
I wouldn't count out the WPBA just yet. We still have K. Fisher, M. Webb, and K. White in the fight. Kelly can bring it all home. Monica is do to have her best tournament at any time now. Kim is playing the best pool of her life right now. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
I wouldn't count out the WPBA just yet. We still have K. Fisher, M. Webb, and K. White in the fight. Kelly can bring it all home. Monica is do to have her best tournament at any time now. Kim is playing the best pool of her life right now. Johnnyt

Aren't Pan and Kim members of the WPBA also? Unless my memory fails me they won the first two tournaments this year.
 
GADawg said:
Aren't Pan and Kim members of the WPBA also? Unless my memory fails me they won the first two tournaments this year.
LOL. Yes add them too. Johnnyt
 
liekdi2588 said:
Alison Fisher, Helen Thornfeldt and Gerda Hofstatter are all out.

Maybe "The WPBA is the defacto World Ranking. " isn't a convincing argument any more.

And Kelly Fisher, Ga Young Kim, amd Monica Webb are still in. The point remains what other ten players do you want to put up against the WPBA top ten. I will bet a very large amount on that matchup.

In this tournament the format lends itself to some of the better players getting beaten. Races to five on bucket pockets make it easier for weaker players to win against players who they normally wouldn't get close to.

While some of the non-WPBA players are playing lights out others are truly enjoying the easy tables. Put them on the tougher WPBA tables with the same shooting ability and you will see far less balls made.

Amit Rubilen is a player. She's a little rough around the edges still but she CAN play. Others need to work on their games a little more before they can claim that beating a top player in a race to five makes them the better player.

Still though, that's the nature of the beast here and if you sign up then you are letting yourself in for all the that this tournament is good and bad.

All in all there is some great pool being played here. Although the pockets seem to be very accepting I have seen a lot of great outs that had nothing to do with the pocket sizes, a lot of great clutch shots, and a lot of superb play.

These ladies have to put up with quite a lot here. The lower level is packed to the gills with kids screaming and playing, kids rollerblading into the barricades :-)

The players have to fight their way through crowds of shoppers to get anywhere. The practice tables are right next to Mini-Bowling and the Batting Cages.

So, it's a tough nut to win this years WPC. Whoever does it will have earned it for sure.
 
sjm said:
Know where you're coming from, but there are sixteen foreign non-WPBA invitees to the pro event at the BCA Open every year, and they are, and always have been, the stars of Europe and Asia. When Jasmin Ouschan won the event last year, it broke a roughly ten year drought in which not even one of these even reached the TV round, although Hsin Mei Liu has come within a match of it twice.

I'll give credit where credit is due, as the internationals non-WPBA players are certaininly shining bright at this year's WPA Women's World championships, but any suggestion that the WPBA isn't the indisputable testing ground for champions is very premature.

Nonetheless, your comment that one's WPBA ranking doesn't factor in the fact that a few others may be counted among the best is dead on.

Things change. Ga-young Kim (2 worlds in a row and howabout her US open record). Jasmin won the BCA/enjoy dot.com. These are the three most important. First two wpba won by Kim and Pan. Food for thought.
 
It's Allison and Karen's fault........

When they showed up on the pool scene they brought a new level to the women's game. The brilliance shown periodically by Jeanette Lee, Loree Jon, and other's that were tour regulars was standard fare for Allison and Karen.

Those two have literally forced a sea change in the women's abilities and their attitudes towards the game. It's very clear that the women of 2007 are MUCH better players on average than the women of 1997. They have more knowledge, they play the right shots, they run out from everywhere, and they have intense focus.

And now Allison and Karen are feeling the effects of their domination. Players like Jasmin Ouschan, Rubilen Amit, and Xiao Ting Pan are proving that they can play a tough game and are not intimidated by Allison and Karen anymore. The new breed of player is tougher and realizes that if she plays the way she knows how and gets the rolls then she will win her share of matches.

It will be tougher for Karen and Allison to maintain their dominance over the women's pro game but don't be surprised if those two take it up another notch.

Meanwhile tomorrow it gets interesting!

It's Single Elimination and Winner Breaks. I hope to see some 'packs' run tomorrow.
 
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Nice format they have over there....
Wendy Jans beats Jasmin Ouschan 5-3 in their groupmatch, and now they again play each other in the last 24 :rolleyes:
Normally you play someone from another group!!
 
HOB Weert said:
Nice format they have over there....
Wendy Jans beats Jasmin Ouschan 5-3 in their groupmatch, and now they again play each other in the last 24 :rolleyes:
Normally you play someone from another group!!

Yes, that's screwed up. Especially for the fans who have already seen these two play.

They did a normal draw and that's how the chips went down. Except that the best player from each group is seeded into the eight matches. They effectively get a bye in the middle of the tournament. I guess they "earned" it but it's still strange.
 
ginsu said:
Things change. Ga-young Kim (2 worlds in a row and howabout her US open record). Jasmin won the BCA/enjoy dot.com. These are the three most important. First two WPBA won by Kim and Pan. Food for thought.

What's Ga Young Kim got to do with it? She is a WPBA player, not a non-WPBA invitee, the subject on which I posted. Ga Young's World titles and her win at the US Open all call while she was a touring pro on the WPBA.

As for Jasmin's performance in the BCA pro event last year, I already mentioned it in my post. For my money, she is quite clearly one of the top five women in the world, and if you factor in her 14.1 prowess, maybe even the best.
 
sjm said:
What's Ga Young Kim got to do with it? She is a WPBA player, not a non-WPBA invitee, the subject on which I posted. Ga Young's World titles and her win at the US Open all call while she was a touring pro on the WPBA.

As for Jasmin's performance in the BCA pro event last year, I already mentioned it in my post. For my money, she is quite clearly one of the top five women in the world, and if you factor in her 14.1 prowess, maybe even the best.

I was not responding to your post. I was dealing with John's post regarding who the best player in the world might be. He stated it was A. Fisher and I was saying maybe things are changing.
 
sjm- My mistake I replyed to the wrong quote. I was just addressing that the #1 in the World may not be Fisher right now. This had to do with what John was saying in an earlier post. Nothing I said disagreed with your post anyway.
 
ginsu said:
sjm- My mistake I replyed to the wrong quote. I was just addressing that the #1 in the World may not be Fisher right now. This had to do with what John was saying in an earlier post. Nothing I said disagreed with your post anyway.

I may have misinterpreted you, too. Sorry, Ginsu.
 
Jasmin Oushan vs. Wendy Jans Game 3.

Joining the action at game 3, Wendy Jans leads 2:0.

Wendy has the break. Makes the corner ball. Wendy is soft breaking from a diamond in from the rail contrary to what most of the players are choosing. She made a ball on the break but ended up with no shot so she played a great safety forcing Jasmin to kick at the 1 ball using the bridge.

Jasmin misses leaving Wendy facing a relatively open table with ball in hand. Yesterday Wendy missed a shot after placing the cueball with ball in hand. The object ball rolled off when she slow rolled the three ball to the corner in yesterday's match. She is hitting them a little firmer today to eliminate that possibility. Wendy clears up easily 3:0 in the race to 7.
 
Jasmin Oushan vs. Wendy Jans Game 4

Winner breaks.

This time Wendy comes up dry but leaves the 9 hanging in the corner. Jasmin's 1:9 combo is partially blocked by the 8. With these soft rails it shouldn't be too much problem though and it wasn't. 1:3 now and Jasmin is on the board.
 
John Barton said:
Winner breaks.

This time Wendy comes up dry but leaves the 9 hanging in the corner. Jasmin's 1:9 combo is partially blocked by the 8. With these soft rails it shouldn't be too much problem though and it wasn't. 1:3 now and Jasmin is on the board.

Hey ive only seen game 3-Guess this PPstream isnt quite live!!
 
Jasmin Oushan vs. Wendy Jans Game 4

Jasmin to break.

Makes a ball, Cueball parked in the middle as usual. No soft break for Jasmin. Table is wide open with no problems.

She gets a little soft on the four but it's no problem at all, she's in dead punch this rack. Jasmin has a little lift up to her after she shoots. Runs out perfectly.

2:3
 
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